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Should christians be allowed to indoctrinate other people's children? [Spirituality & Religion]

A christian complained that a Satanist posted here attempting to draft young kids in. Is that really any different from what christians often do?
Lilarianna · 26-30, F
Every religion constantly wants to draw kids in and proclaim it's not fair other religions are doing it 🙄
Lilarianna · 26-30, F
@suzie1960 fair enough each to their own.. I'm just going off the origins of Wicca.

couldnt have described it better myself
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Graylight · 51-55, F
Why don't we all stop with the whole "indoctrination' thing? The only difference between indoctrination and teaching is the promotion of questions and examination of the subject material.

Christians teach Christianity. There's nothing wrong with that. Satanists preach Satanism. There's nothing wrong with that. Having grown up Catholic, I can tell you that examination and critical thought are encouraged more than not.

The only way a person can be indoctrinated is by not questioning for themselves what they're hearing; the only way a child can be indoctrinated is if he's not taught the same critical skill.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@ladycae I see. [quote]Anthropological studies suggest that every known tribe among humans worships some kind of deity.[/quote]
only refers to modern tribes does it?
Graylight · 51-55, F
@suzie1960 Not even close. Even Neanderthals buried their loved ones with accoutrements like flowers. The thinking is that it was both out of respect for the person and a belief that the body or essence would carry on.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@Graylight Sorry, I addressed my reply to ladycae instead of you.

I'm aware that ancient tribes had various religious practices and superstitions. That suggests present day religious people are stuck in the past.
User41 · 36-40, M
Sure. In a perfect world.

But we don’t live in a perfect world. We attempt to teach children what the parent sees as fact or moral. Or at the very least accepted within the society he or she is growing up in.

The only alternative would be to not teach your child anything phylisophical, religious or political in fear that you yourself are wrong to believe it.

I suppose the healthy balance is to teach them what you think you know to be fact and let them decide what to take on bored or forget as they grow. But then? Do I even know 100% certainty that’s the correct way to parent???
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@ladycae Where did I say that? They do post their sick literature through my door though.
ladycae · 100+, F
those are 7th day Adventist. they are not Christians. and you clearly said [quote]christian zealots try to overrule them[/quote] i don't see how that is possible unless a parent is there objecting.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@ladycae Actually the literature I've seen is not from 7th Day Adventists. I don't think there are any in my area. We have CoE, Catholic and Methodist mainly.

They try to overrule parents by not considering their wishes.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
In my opinion, you either teach all religions (including satanism) or none at all. We have so many people in this world, it is unfair to have a Christian bias only in school or society.

I think teaching religion as "mythology and culture" is perfectly fine but if it's the type of indoctrination you're talking about then no.

I even disagree with many people that say "we are a Christian nation" because it immediately draws a line in the sand that says "my tribe vs. your tribe." It's like putting a flag on top of a hill and declaring it yours, that's what it says to me.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@MartinII That wasn't what I meant also the Native Americans were here first and there should be no "declared" religion in a country that's multi cultural.
The US doesn't have an "Official" language either but it was attempted. @MartinII
MartinII · 70-79, M
@SatanBurger @softspokenman By “we” I meant the United Kingdom, which is where I live. In the US, of course, the Constitution guarantees that no religion is official.
MartinII · 70-79, M
Only if the other people agree, clearly. The more interesting question, I think, is should parents be allowed to indoctrinate their own children. It’s a difficult question, but my own view is that at least some education in contrary views and beliefs should be compulsory.
🤔 "He's making a list checking it twice seeing who's being naughty and nice... he knows when you're awake...etc." I don't think that an Atheist wrote that.
I'm sorry that you don't understand but that's not my problem that's yours. @MartinII
MartinII · 70-79, M
@softspokenman Actually it’s your problem. I couldn’t care less what your views are. But you took the trouble to make a long post on the subject, so presumably you want me and others to know what you think. If I’m right, why not give an answer to @suzie 1960’s original question in plain English? Yes or no would do.
Not my problem. Perhaps you shouldn't be reading things that you don't understand and then demanding that they be explained to you. If you could care less then mind your own damn business. @MartinII
Sonntag · 22-25, F
is the post still up? it sounds fun to read
ladycae · 100+, F
i talked to some of my friends who live in England. one is in London, one Manchester, and the others i forget but they all told me you are having a problem no one else seems to have.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@ladycae If they're christians I wouldn't expect them to have problems with christians. I didn't when I was a christian. In any case, they might find christian activities I object to acceptable.
ladycae · 100+, F
@suzie1960 nope nome of them Christians, one a Buddhist, 2 atheists an agnostic and one undeclared
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ladycae · 100+, F
first of all, how can anyone draw in kids here? especially Christians. there are enough doubters here to put anyone off. and Satanists have as much right to post about their religion as any other religion.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@ladycae Now you're just being stupid. I didn't say they send scam emails (although it wouldn't surprise me to find they do), I said their attempts are similar to email scammers. The hit rate might be low but they both have some success.
ladycae · 100+, F
@suzie1960 you need to deal with the government requiring Christian teaching. you have valid point there. the rest is all just your intense dislike for Christians clouding your rational judgment.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@ladycae My judgment is quite clear thank you.
Bastard · 26-30, M
Brainwash them while they're young.

 
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