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You know what's ridiculous? [Spirituality & Religion]

When someone tells you that evolution is just too unlikely and that a creator god is the more likely option.
Like, how do you figure?! lol
OrphanAnnie · 26-30
Its far more likely that some magic man in the sky waved his hand and created us :)
VoloProVeritas62 · 61-69, M
@Celine [quote]If you don't have something more convincing than "the bible says Jesus would rise and he DID!" or " God promised x and i am born again!" then sorry, i remain unconvinced.[/quote] I told you that you can go ahead and try to debunk it if you like.

[quote]How would one go about debunking a faith claim for which there is no corroborating evidence?[/quote] You're a smart girl, you figure it out. It shouldn't be that hard, should it?

[quote]No. There aren't. There are records of christian belief. Josephus is one prominent recorder who wrote about Christianity. But there is no extra-biblical evidence for the idea that Jesus rose from the dead. If you disagree then please post your source here.[/quote] Sure there are. Do you actually think that men never kept records back then? How, do you think, we know about history if men never kept any records? Look them up.

[quote]Except that's what you're saying[/quote] Those are your words, not mine.

[quote]Out of curiosity, what do you feel you have done to make that point? Is in the bible passages?[/quote] I have done a lot to help you know the truth of God and His Word. I gave you demonstrations and illustrations that you refuse to receive, I gave evidence to show you that He lives and that there is a soul and a spirit, yet you refuse to accept it, I also have shown the differences between men's religious books and the living Word of God which you fail to understand and receive. I also mentioned the way to know the truth for yourself which you have yet to take, even though you gave up the first time.

In saying that, I feel I have come as far as I could with this and place you at Jesus' feet. You do what you think is right. You can look up all the documents, you can try to debunk the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, or just quit and mark this as a stand off. I feel right now, the only way I could win this debate is to see you in heaven with me. It's been great talking with you though and I hope to talk with you again some time. You have a great day.
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VoloProVeritas62 · 61-69, M
@Celine Hey Celine, how are you doing?
ladycae · 100+, F
interestingly, i have been giving this some study. and i have come to the conclusion that evolution is not the be-all and end-all of how the universe and life began. there are scientific facts such as the water molecule is made up of two hydrogen and one oxygen molecule. these are undisputed facts. they have been proven to be true and can be replicated over and over. then there is theory. the possibility that maybe this is the way things might be. and i emphasize [b]MAYBE[/b] because some posters here act and would like you to assume that evolution is fact. it is not which is why it is called a theory, a possibility, not scientific fact.

in another thread in this section (2 threads up i believe), i posted a video that shows that there is a possibility that dinosaurs are not 168 million years old. in fact, according to some experts, they are at the least 512 years old. this throws the entire theory of evolution out of wack because for evolution to work it needs time. it needs millions and millions of years to complete it's so-called transition from one species into another. Times that is now being questioned due to the discovery of soft tissue containing blood vessels and cells that by science's own conclusions cannot survive for millions of years. and if dinosaurs are younger than science, the entire theory of evolution is thrown on its ear because it upsets that need for millions of years to have passed in order for evolution to have taken place.

in this thread i did post a portion of an interview with a well respected noted scientist who does not believe evolution has proved it'self

there are more things that disprove evolution or shake up its premise but i won't go into them now because i am just studying them. But one thing is 1005 true and that is that evolution is but one scientific theory on how life began it is far from scientific fact because it has not been scientifically proven as 100% accurate.
ladycae · 100+, F
@Celine thank you for your agreement. you have now proven that the answer to your question is the opposite of what you thought.
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VoloProVeritas62 · 61-69, M
Real easy. You take the blinders off and look at the whole picture of science instead of just one part. Jesus loves you and so do I.
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VoloProVeritas62 · 61-69, M
@Celine [quote]You are claiming that since people invent gods and look for gods that this is proof not only that gods exist, but that the specific god you believe in has put this desire in people.[/quote] Again, those are your words, not mine. Read what I said, and do not skim.

[quote]1) I wasn't born this way, as a matter of fact I was like you [don't assume, i was never afraid for god to be real], not wanting God to be around because I was scared to death of Him[/quote] That's my testimony, right now your testimony is that you don't want God for whatever reason. I didn't want God around either but I gave you my reason.

[quote]How do you feel that this is proof of your assertion? I genuinely don't follow your line of reasoning.[/quote] Don't follow what I say because you lack understanding. I showed you the way to help you gain understanding but it's clearly up to you to take that way. Nobody can do it for you but you.

[quote]Then i don't know to what you were referring. Please clarify.[/quote] I never said that I didn't believe in God, I merely said I didn't want Him around. I didn't know Him then like I do now. In order for me to God personally, I had to become born again.

[quote]I conceded that faith could be considered a part of science in a trivial way regarding motivation but having nothing to do with the results and conclusions of the scientific method.[/quote] Well, at least we agree here.

I don't pretend. I know you offered me the challenge. The trouble is that you don't understand that I have taken your challenge in ways that you lack understanding in. What bothers me is that we can learn so much from each other if we can learn to get out of our own way.
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lyle687276 · 70-79, M
Here is the reason evolution is not true. God created the animals by "kinds". Evolution cannot show how one lower kind became a higher more developed different kind. Like one-celled organisms to mammals, for instance. That is called macro-evolution. Micro-evolution is a different matter. It involves minor changes inside a "kind" or species. That can be shown. Evolutionists can never say where the original spark of life came from. The only sane answer is a Creator God.
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lyle687276 · 70-79, M
Celine, i really wish i had the time but i am laeving for a Caribbean cruise right now. I might possibly on her a little latr, ok? I really enjoy doing this with you. Have you ever seen AnswersinGenesis?
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Allelse · 36-40, M
Universe is a scary place and nobody likes to admit that we're on our own here. They'd much rather believe it was all the plan of some colossal, voodoo monkey who lives in the sky; rather than simply admitting that we dont know why there is existence. But hopefully the more we come to understand the universe, the less people will feel they need to rely on mythology to help them feel safe at night.
Allelse · 36-40, M
@Celine Yeah I know the type, and its like they're almost pleading with you to believe its real, because if its not, then their comfort was all a lie.
VoloProVeritas62 · 61-69, M
@Allelse @Celine Ignorance is a terrible thing even in people who believe they have none. No colossal, voodoo monkey, who lives in the sky, created us or the universe and everything in it. It was the Lord God, Jehovah, that created everything that is good. With Christ, we do know why there's existence as well as its origin. I've been say this before, you can't separate the living God from science because He's its Author. If you want to prove that He's a myth, go ahead. But, if you can't, then accept the fact that He does live and that He loves all of His creation even those who do not return His love. trying to replace the Living God, Jehovah, with dead evolution is like trying to make the earth revolve the sun in the opposite direction. Well, I've said enough. Go ahead and knock your brains out.
Allelse · 36-40, M
@VoloProVeritas62 If you're going to insist on believing in fairy tales couldn't you atleast be a Buddhist? I mean aside from that nutty bunch in Burma, they're generally a pretty chill lot.
Butterflykisses24 · 51-55, F
can you explain the fossil of a trilibite in a human sandle print.It's in a museum.
Butterflykisses24 · 51-55, F
@Celine I think you have insulted me enough.I don't care to have any more dealings with you personally.Maybe if you weren't so crass I would listen to what you have to say,but I really don't care to.
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AbbyS94 · F
@Celine Evolution proven wrong by a 'sandal' print? That's the funniest thing I've heard in ages 😂
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I'm guessing they see how cool nature is and think that it can't have happened spontaneously.
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freeb · 61-69, M
Evolution has tons of evidence supporting it, from fossils to dna. Even the Catholic Church says evolution is fact. And I just don't believe in a god in the bibles, they're just fables and parables passed down through millennia.
ladycae · 100+, F
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S89IskZI740]

. I believe God created everything. i do believe that evolution can fit within the bible to some degree but as far as the big bang, it was God.
Please see the above post where i continue my debate
Khenpal1 · M
Both creations exist due to our perception of I .It maybe more helpful to turn into our mind creations . We have concept of science and God due to thinking process.
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Spokeskitties75 · 46-50, M
I came from a Reese’s peanut butter cup and nobody’s telling me different!!
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Elessar · 26-30, M
I've the impression humanity as a whole will estinguish long before even just the 50% of the whole population may realize religions exist only for profit. Evolution is just the last thing they've decided to go against, in the name of their stupid, purposefully misinterpreted book. Centuries ago it was about earth being the center of the universe, it took them quite a lot to realize they were wrong also that time.
Fangirlsarah1996 · 26-30, F
"This exists so obviously someone must've created it"
Byron8by7 · M
Yes, I agree, ridiculous.
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Someone once said that our beautiful and complex universe being created from "nothing" is like throwing a bunch of random paint on a canvas and creating the Mona Lisa.
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Serendipitymaybe · 51-55, M
For me the big question is why "creation" is such an integral part of faith.
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@Celine I mean, I ponder all sorts of metaphysical questions and ethical problems-- and how giraffes came to be never once enters into it...
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MikefromEP · 51-55, M
It's easier to say God created viruses to kill people
Aydao · 26-30, M
I try to avoid this kind of people as much as possible
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Mysteriousliaisons · 56-60, M
God is science 🔬
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MartinTheFirst · 22-25, M
Is it though? exactly how much do you know about evolution and religion to justify saying something like that? it's a very heavy topic you enter into so boldly...
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MartinTheFirst · 22-25, M
@Celine lol
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TJNewton · M
Evolution is just too unlikely and that a creator god is the more likely option.
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TJNewton · M
@Celine Because earth does not belong to humans the original inhabitants of earth is the sasquatch us humans were brought here from other star formations thats how i know

 
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