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Will Netanyahu's departure help relations with the Palestinians?

The Palestinians themselves don't think so.

It's probable but not yet certain that Israel's longest serving and most violent leader will be sent out of power. His corruption and decrease in popularity means that there is a big tent coalition of parties set to remove Bibi from office. This is a good thing.

The coalition in question though even has some parties who are to the right of Netanyahu and whose main problems with him is that he hasn't built enough settlements on Palestian land or bombed enough buildings.

Even the centre and centre-left of Israeli politics is Zionist and hawkish. The institutions of the country, from the courts to the IDF, are geared towards driving Palestinians from their land and further entrenching the military occupation. 'End of a dark era and the beginning of a new dark era,' is how one Palestinian put it. The problems are systemic and change needs to come from outside by stopping arms sales to Israel and forcing the state to comply with international law.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/04/palestinians-welcome-end-of-netanyahu-era-but-fear-more-of-the-same
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Adstar · 56-60, M
No.. The Palestinians are not interested in better relations.. They are interested in the destruction of Israel..
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Adstar Mostly, they just don't want to live under military occupation.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@Burnley123 Israeli troops where not stationed in the Gaza strip when Hamas decided to mass launch their missiles..

But apart from that islam cannot accept the loss of control of Jerusalem it cannot accept the reverse of history.. In their religious view they are destined to become ""upper most"" in regard to Jews and Christians who must be subjected and in submission to islamic rule.. Their history was supposed to be one victory after another jihad victory until all the world submits to islam and the only religion is islam..

So even if the Palestinians wanted to accept the current situation and go for a two stater solution the rest of the islamic world would not let them.. Palestinians are virtual slaves of islam and their doctrine of islamic world destiny..
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@Adstar the native population might have excellent reasons for wanting the invaders gone. Why can't the Jews go back to Europe? Suddenly a Jew free Europe is Palestinians problem?
Adstar · 56-60, M
@Stopmakingsense Anyone born in the land is native to that land.. Most Jews in Israel where born in Israel they are now natives..
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@Adstar invaders always bring in some exception so they can steal. It's theft. Jews stole Palestine and keep it with violence.
If I take my Siamese cat to Persia, and she had kittens, that don't get me Persian kittens. Jews in Palestine.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@Stopmakingsense And the ancestors of the Palestinians stole the land too.. Most lands are occupied by people who won their conflicts with adversaries.. People have been immigrating for thousands of generations and either succeeding in taking control of land or failing.. That's the way of the world..
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@Adstar bull. Stop pretending we'll take any colonialism.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@Stopmakingsense The world is the way the world is.. You can accept the accuracy of my point or continue to shake your fist against reality.. But in the end reality always wins and steamrolls all those who deny it and don't make the right adjustments when reality comes calling..
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@Adstar and there's change. Sea change, against settler colonialism. That's why Texas has to outlaw what I'm saying in school.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@Stopmakingsense And Anyway did i just say in an earlier post that the plaestinians are going to continue to fight the israeli's not matter who is the leader of israel.. Yep that's what i said.. So i never said the Palestinians are going to accept the existence of Israel they are going to fight it till there is either no Israel or they are wasted as a people.. They will continue to slay israelies until they are either victorious or they are themselves slain by israelies..
Adstar · 56-60, M
@Stopmakingsense In the end the people who will perservere are those who are more capable of winning against their opponents in the environment they are fighting in..
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@Adstar I doubt that fighting is the end goal of Palestinian fighting.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@Stopmakingsense [quote]I doubt that fighting is the end goal of Palestinian fighting.[/quote]

This makes no sense to me.. Want to explain what you are saying?
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@Adstar I guess-. Might made it Israel. It'll never be right.
Adstar · 56-60, M
@Stopmakingsense Here is a bit of wisdon you can learn from this discussion.. The world is never fair MotherHubbard..