If you don't believe in at least some conspiracies there's something wrong with you

The government is known to lie and be corrupt. Conspiracy theorists are always mocked cause some are crazy. But whenever they're right they're given no credit at all and it's ignored. People were called crazy and paranoid for saying the government spies on you, Snowden proved they do. Alex Jones for saying Epstein is a child predator that has a secret island he invites rich people to. That was proven true. Heck, it was probably a conspiracy at one time to say Hitler is evil or that priests touch young boys.

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Graylight · 51-55, F

Snowden didn't prove the government spies on us. He verified they collect anonymous metadata and filter for very specific identifiers and cautions. (And we already knew this.)

Alex Jones has spread so much rich and potent fertilizer around this country that it's simply within the law of averages that one thing is going to turn out to be true. However, Jones must have made is big statements prior to 2006, which is when an underage prostitution charge was filed against Epstein.

A cover-up is not a conspiracy necessarily. A conspiracy is a plan by multiple parties to secretly cause harm or illegal acts. Both happen, but in the case of the former the truth is this: the public does not have a de factor right to know anything they want at any time they want via any source they want.

SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M

@Graylight [quote]Snowden didn't prove the government spies on us. He verified they collect anonymous metadata and filter for very specific identifiers and cautions. (And we already knew this.)[/quote]

Pfft, no we didn't.

Snowden chose to go rouge and release the information proving the NSA was illegally spying on Americans after James Clapper, then Director of National Intelligence straight up lied to Congress about the existence of this spying program.

And Snowden had plenty of data showing analysts routinely abused their position and spied on Americans illegally.