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Are you supporting the new gun control bill, HR 127 which will at least for law abiding citizens:

Poll - Total Votes: 26
I am all for it or just want to let them do what they want to do.
I am against it but it is too much trouble to tell my representative and senators I don't like it.
I am against it and am actually contacting my elected officials to protest it.
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IMPOSE Licensing of Firearms and Ammunition for Possession of any firearm or ammunition.

IMPOSE an additional license to DISPLAY an Antique Firearm in the HOME.

IMPOSE an additional license for Possession of “Military Style Weapons.”

IMPOSE mandated Firearm Liability INSURANCE with a yearly fee of $800 payable to the US Attorney General.

IMPOSE a detailed Federal Firearm Registration System to which THE PUBLIC, all Federal, State and Local law enforcement, all governments, and all branches of the US Armed Forces has complete access.

1. Must be 21 years of age.

2. Undergo a criminal background check.

3. Completion of a minimum 24-Hour “training course” certified by the US Att. Gen.

4. Undergo a psychological evaluation and the evaluation does not indicate that the individual is psychologically unsuited to possess a firearm. As deemed necessary by the licensed psychologist involved, the evaluation included a psychological evaluation of other members of the household in which the individual resides; and As part of the psychological evaluation, the licensed psychologist interviewed any spouse of the individual, any former spouse of the individual, and at least 2 other persons who are a member of the family of, or an associate of, the individual to further determine the state of the mental, emotional, and relational stability of the individual in relation to firearms.

5. Successfully completes a training course, certified by the Attorney General, in the use, safety, and storage of firearms, that includes at least 24 hours of training.



Firearms Liability Insurance: On issuance of the license, the individual must have in effect a mandated firearms liability insurance policy. The fee for the insurance policy is $800 per year payable to the US Attorney General.

FEES:

1. Fee for Firearm Liability Insurance is $800 per year.
2. Fee for the Firearm and Ammunition License - not yet specified.
3. Fee for the Antique Firearm License - not yet specified.
4. Fee for the Military Style Weapon License - not yet specified.
5. Fee for the background check - not yet specified.
6. Fee for the training course for the firearms and ammunition license - not yet specified.
7. Fee the licensed psychologist is allowed to charge for the psychological evaluation - not yet specified. The psychologist MUST be approved by the US Attorney General.



The bill criminalizes the following:

It shall be unlawful for a person to sell or give a firearm or ammunition to another person unless the person has notified the Attorney General of the sale or gift.

It shall be unlawful for a person to loan a firearm or ammunition to another person unless the person has notified the Attorney General of the loan, including the identity of such other person and the period for which the loan is made.

It shall be unlawful for a person to transfer a firearm or ammunition to an unlicensed person.

It shall be unlawful for a person holding a valid license issued under section 932(c)(1) to transfer a firearm to an individual who has not attained 18 years of age.

It shall be unlawful for any person to possess ammunition that is 0.50 caliber or greater.

It shall be unlawful for any person to possess a large capacity ammunition feeding device.

The term ‘large capacity ammunition feeding device’ means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition, but does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.”

Whoever knowingly violates section 922(bb)(4) shall be fined not less than $75,000 and not more than $100,000, imprisoned not less than 15 years and not more than 25 years, or both, except that if the transferee of the firearm possess or uses the firearm during or in relation to a crime, an unintentional shooting, or suicide, the transferor shall be fined not less than $100,000 and not more than $150,000, imprisoned not less than 25 years and not more than 40 years, or both.

Do you really think you will be safer? Do you really think criminals will abide by this?
kodiac · 22-25, M
Does this apply when our govt sells guns planes or missiles to other countries? How does it stop buying a gun from the shitbag on the corner? This will have no effect on illegal gun sales so it is only about infringing on the rights if law abiding citizens. One more step on the path to total govt control.
kodiac · 22-25, M
@TexChik Golden boy 22
Oster1 · M
@windinhishair You certainly aren’t serious! 😊
Oster1 · M
@kodiac Hahahahaha! That was so good, my younger brother! I love how you handle these fools! Keep it up, man!😊
Oster1 · M
Hell no! It’s unconstitutional! I have a responsibility to never go along with this charade. What is about the Second Amendment, never being infringed, that some people just can’t understand?

If I want any weapon to defend myself against an out of control tyrannical Government, trying to subverse me into slavery, I will have any weapon, ammunition and protection, that my money can buy! Period!

The remedy proposed by our founding fathers was divinely written into the Constitution of The United States!

The first and second amendments of the Bill of Rights, are the law of the land and no other law(s) shall supersede them!

I have my faith in the Good Lord and one hundred million plus people, who feel the same way.

This minority will never rule, the rest of us. Never!
Oster1 · M
Happy Monday, to you!😊

I have to hand it to you. Honestly, when I just saw this, you made me laugh. I thought it was very funny. I’m being sincere and not sarcastic.Thank you, so much.☮️@Graylight
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Gray light is a misguided mean spirited shrew. @Oster1
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Oster1 We can disagree and still be civilized. 😉 Glad you laughed.
FreeSpirit1 · 51-55, F
No, criminals wont abide by new gun laws, laws are for the law abiding and gun laws on top of gun laws make it more difficult for law abiding citizens to get a gun.
curiosi · 61-69, F
NO, as I have studied history and know what happens.
TexChik · F

[big][b][i][c=#BF0000]SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED[/c][/i][/b][/big]
You’re only disarming law abiding citizens..

Because we all know crooks and murderers are the first to show up and obey laws huh?
JesseInTX · 51-55, M
I am 100% opposed to this. And it will not be enforceable if it passes.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@JesseInTX My post is in direct response to your own words.
[quote]To carry a firearm in public most states require a license which also requires a standard of training to obtain one.[/quote]
JesseInTX · 51-55, M
@Graylight your post is about states which require a firearm owner to register his guns with law enforcement. It has nothing to do with training either in a classroom setting or on a range at all.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@JesseInTX 👌
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
There is no way this passes as is. See what you think after the inevitable compromise with the Senate.
SW-User
Fee, fee, fees. Hell no I wouldn't support that.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
I will have to read the bill to be able to comment on it in more detail. However, it is necessary to have sensible gun control measures to close loopholes in the transfer of weapons to others at gun shows or through private transactions.
Johnson212 · 61-69, M
@Northwest I bet there would be fewer wrecks if we did not have insurance, if you knew you would be on the hook for the damage you caused you might be a better driver.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Johnson212 [quote] I bet there would be fewer wrecks if we did not have insurance[/quote]

Really? How about we eliminate speed limits? Fewer people would drive fast because they would be afraid of the consequences. While we're at it, we can eliminate stop signs and stop lights using the same reasoning.
Northwest · M
@Johnson212 [quote]I bet there would be fewer wrecks if we did not have insurance, if you knew you would be on the hook for the damage you caused you might be a better driver.
[/quote]

I'm sure you have some data/research you can educate me with. 🤣Don't worry, I am not waiting.
Seems a bit much at first glance, but I like the insurance idea.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Now ladies we all know that the militia language is in part there so that citizens may freely own firearms in case a FUTURE need for a militia might arise and in order to have firearms available unrestricted ownership is required. The left swung and missed on the militia only claim because even a doorknob knows there is no STANDING citizen militia. Militias may or may not come and go. In order to accomplish that firearm ownership must be not infringed. @MistyCee @TexChik
TexChik · F
@jackjjackson exactly. And the socialists believe they can use wealth as a way of restricting gun ownership...while totally ignoring the constitution and their on going gun debacle in Chicago.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
If it hasn’t happened already it won’t be long before the inmates are in charge of the left asylum. @TexChik
Graylight · 51-55, F
I think it's fair, sensible
and warranted given the danger the product being discussed. There's a reason we don't all get to walk around carrying uranium in our bags.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Johnson212 What part of the bill mandates confiscation?
Johnson212 · 61-69, M
@windinhishair Look at the history of confiscation in other countries, first you require registration then confiscation. It is the reason that the current law outlaws the federal government from creating a registry.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Johnson212 The US isn't other countries. Show me how the bill mandates confiscation. Not supposition and wild conspiracy theories.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
This is an outrage. At least they’re being honest and not trying to sneak this through piecemeal.
TexChik · F
@jackjjackson this is me not laughing
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Tell that to Johnson who posted this travesty. I’m HOPING it’s a joke. @TexChik
TexChik · F
@jackjjackson it’s unconstitutional ... I think it just just a test balloon
Human1000 · M
The Constitution guarantees all Americans the right to own any kind of firearm and carry them anywhere at all times. So long as you are 18 you should be allowed to carry machine guns anywhere. Any infringement of this right means we live in Nazi Germany and war must be declared against tyranny.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Human1000 If machine guns and bazookas are outlawed, only criminals will have machine guns and bazookas. A good guy with a machine gun or bazooka can kill bad guys with machine guns or bazookas, making everyone safer.
Human1000 · M
@windinhishair And let’s get something straight...there is no way to tell the difference between a bazooka and a .22 revolver. Both shoot projectiles.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Human1000 Didn't Antonin "Machine Gun" Scalia make that statement?
So practically.. they can refuse anybody they deem unfit..
Kinda speculative innit..

we’ll just send you to an ultra liberal conservative hating democrat party approved psych..
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
Sounds pretty sensible. It should make it easier for the police to find the difference between legal and illegal weapons, to come down hard on the gun-criminals.
i think we should just let all the gun people have what ever guns they want and put them on the borders. then after they shoot each other and all of the illegals...then we can finally have peace.✌️
@windinhishair sounds like fun...count me in...to watch, that is
@jackjjackson the time is coming soon. the pandemic has driven everyone to their maddest point where moms are drowning their children regularly...kids are shooting their parents on a normal basis...people shoot each other at the Piggly wiggly because of one mask issue or another. the end of civilization is coming.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
I’m somewhat more optimistic Bunny. @LILY61
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
LOL, clean up chicago and maybe I will listen to their bullschiff
eMortal · M
You said law abiding citizen 🤔. Sure you probably are. But it won't stop your son or grandson to steal it and go shoot up the sch00l just because someone humiliated him.
We need to stop selling all guns to civilians.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
I’m planning on purchasing a Gatling Gun and a boatload of ammo just in case.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@jackjjackson But I can carry the typewriter on my motorcycle, without having to stop and unlimber
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
I’d like to see a video of that 🤠 @sunsporter1649
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ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
For a perfect example of how effective gun control laws are, look at Chicago.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@ProfessorPlum77 Or Australia, or pretty much the majority of Europe
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Elessar Or New Zealand!
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@Graylight Here is another "throw-away" statement for you.
Northwest · M
I am all for proper regulation of firearms and ammunitions. This bill, however, is a bit complicated, especially the liability insurance. In its current format, it stands little chance passing. Several sections can be removed, and turning the AG's office into an insurance company is not a practical thing to do.
Northwest · M
@Johnson212 [quote] It is not just a matter or regulation but registration which if you study history is followed by confiscation.
[/quote]

Please, touch me about history. Do you really believe a dictatorship is going to wait for a "list" to do what it wants? Tell me about the situation in Norway, for instance.
Johnson212 · 61-69, M
@Northwest They don't need a dictatorship to disarm you, example Australia.
Northwest · M
@Johnson212 Apologies, I thought you were concerned about bad stuff might happen. There has not been a mass shooting in Australia since they implemented their gun laws.

You want to play GI Joe. Got you.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
If this passes it will pave the way for a new round of sanctuary cities and states.
SW-User
I support it. I also like #’s 1-5 of this bill.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Sounds like a good start. Now if a criminal is picked up with a gun he has a problem...😷
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@jackjjackson

Be sure to show your working out next time.😷
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
awhitedot · 46-50, M
As soon as someone shows me how any of this will help curb gun violence.
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TexChik · F
@swirlie It respects only the desires of the socialist hoard and slaps the constitution in the face.

 
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