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San Francisco, The Capitol Of The Land Of Fruits And Nuts, Launches Taxpayer Funded Public Defender Office Dedicated To Illegal Immigrants

You can’t make this stuff up.

To our complete ‘shock’, the liberal bastion of California’s northern shores has just announced that it will create a brand new tax-payer funded branch of the Public Defender’s office to specifically defend illegal immigrants (key word being illegal), including gang members, in deportation cases. Adding insult to injury, taxpayers will have to pony up an additional $200,000 each year to cover the cost of 3 public defenders and a paralegal, all of whom will be dedicated to making sure that federal laws are ignored.
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nedkelly · 61-69, M
Illegal immigrants simple to prosecute

Prosecutor - to defendant on the stand

Are you in this country illegally, YES

Guilty and deported within 5 mins
4meAndyou · F
@nedkelly In California, it goes like this: Prosecutor: "Are you an illegal immigrant?"
Immigrant: "Yes, yes I am."
Prosecutor: "Thank YOU!!! Thank you thank you for coming. Here is your welfare check, your free health insurance, your food stamps, your free education at any college of your choice and...(prosecutor kneels)...is there anything else...ANYTHING at all that I can do for you? Hmmm?"
fddlpej · 61-69, M
@nedkelly yes and maybe they should put whoever hired them in prison as well.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@nedkelly If we were prosecuting them - meaning, if they committed a crime, this office wouldn’t exist because they’d have a right to a public defender. This is that funny gray area because being an illegal immigrant is not a crime.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul Illegal alien, by definition, is a law-breaker
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 Not a crime, sporty, so we don’t prosecute them, nor do we find them guilty - otherwise they’d have a public defender provided for them already.

As usual, you’re slow on the uptake.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul Illegal aliens, by definition, are comitting a crime
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 No matter how much this bothers you, being an illegal immigrant is not a crime.
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul What part of illegal do you not understand?
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 Take it up with the scotus, sporty - not every violation of law is a [i]crime[/i].
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul LOL. "not every violation of the law is a crime". What bullschiff, typical left-wing nut job crap
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 It's not that hard, sporty - even your damaged gray matter should be able to keep up. Running a stop sign is against the law, but it's not a crime, and getting a ticket doesn't make you a criminal. That's also why you don't get a public defender when you go to court for it, and you're not found [i]guilty [/i]even if you lose.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul LOL, of course not, felonies are not crimes, just another demonocrat voter trying his bestest to assimilate into the community, right?
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 This might be a shock to you, but if you are charged with a felony, a public defender will be provided for you regardless of immigration status.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul Might come as a shock to you, but a speeding ticket is a crime, try not signing the ticket the cop writes out and hands to you
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 No, a speeding ticket is generally not a crime unless you are doing the sort of spectacular speeds that elevate it to reckless driving, etc. Not signing it isn’t a crime either, but an officer may take you into custody if you refuse.

You’re seriously smoothbrained about this topic as well, go figure.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul Try not signing the ticket sometime
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 You are so disabled that you think you’re making a point right now lmao. I’m not surprised these topics are simply beyond you.
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul When the lights come on, you have been arrested, try not signing the ticket and see what happens
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 Lmao you’re so clueless.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul Try not signing the ticket and see what happens
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 Depends on the state and how much time the officer wants to waste.

[quote] As a former officer myself, I really don’t understand those who insist on arresting drivers who refuse to sign the citation. While many traffic offenses are arrestable offenses, most are not. Refusal to sign isn’t really a violation of law, except that the law may dictate that if a driver refuses to sign the citation, they CAN be arrested and taken before a Magistrate.

Frankly, in the “old days” we would just write REFUSED or REFUSED TO SIGN on the signature line. The driver would still have to appear in court as the issuance of the citation is considered “service”. Judges didn’t look too highly upon defendants who had refused to sign, so they couldn’t really expect any breaks.

If the driver didn’t appear in Court, they had been legally served personally by the officer, so the Judge would issue a bench warrant for failure to appear. At that point, their indignant refusal just cost them a lot more than the traffic fine.[/quote]

You’re still being a complete muppet about this. The scotus already ruled that being in the country illegally is not a crime - in ‘10.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul Of course not, which is why the law was scrubbed from the CFR, and immigration policies are not being enforced, anybody gets in, child molesters, drug runners, murderers, you know, good demonocrat voters.

And I can show you dozens of good busts made because the recipitant of a moving violation refused to sign a ticket, but since they do not fit your bullschiff narrative you will, of course, with your superior attitude, refuse to do any research
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 You’re being so tremendously dumb about this. Congress didn’t make being in the country illegally a crime because it’s easier to deport people that way. No presumption of innocence, no right to due process, no mandatory representation, etc.

But you’d rather grandstand because you have the IQ of a rotting log.

[quote] the law was scrubbed from the CFR[/quote]
Regulations aren’t laws, sporty.