155 sailors on USS Theodore Roosevelt test positive for coronavirus, 42 percent of all Navy infections

@beckyromero No. A military is for defense, not power projection.

You're a militarist. You want a military for offensive purposes, not security. You want a military for power projection (to bully and control the world), not to protect American soil and souls.

And if you ever call me anything with the name Trump again or accuse me of being a Trumpanzee, I'll kick your hawk ass.

@quitwhendone [quote]You want a military for offensive purposes, not security.[/quote]

I [b]WANT[/b] a military that has great offensive capabilities.

This isn't the NFL. In this case, a good [i]offense[/i] is also a good [i]defense[/i].

[quote]You want a military for power projection (to bully and control the world), not to protect American soil and souls.[/quote]

Who said anything about "bullying" or "control"?

And, besides, there is a reason why we are on the United Nations Security Council.

[quote]And if you ever call me anything with the name Trump again or accuse me of being a Trumpanzee, I'll kick your hawk ass.[/quote]

Oh dear. I seem to have hit a nerve.

😂

@beckyromero Unfortunately, we have traditionally used our military to bully and control.

Take the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Bush clearly lied about the purpose. He knew there were no WMDs there. 600,000 Iraqis were killed.

Take the 1989 invasion of Panama. Bush initially said he would never invade Panama because the old days of bullying Central American countries were long over. Then the media kept accusing him of being weak. So he invaded. Over 500 Panamanians died so Pres. Bush wouldn't continue to look weak in media reports.

These kinds of things have happened over and over. It needs to STOP.

@Tastyfrzz

Hopefully, the ones at sea have stayed at sea. They are usually on six-month deployments.

@REMsleep First point that is mostly a myth based on early data from China where most older males are heavy smokers.

about half of all cases in NY are under the age of 45 and many are on ventilators. A large ship is also probably the worse case scenario unless you want to maximize infections. Also with bed shortages death rates skyrocket. I would be curious what the sickbay ICU bed count to personnel ratio is.


And again the only evidence we have that protocol was not followed are a bunch of people trying to cover their own asses.

@REMsleep There is a protocol for what should be done if you a hand infection. There isn't one for this thing. His primary responsibility is to his mission, which includes his sailors and the distinct possibility that he will not be able to carry on his mission, if its crew is disabled.

@REMsleep [quote]It is a nuclear powered aircraft carrier and must be protected.[/quote]

And that's what he was trying to do.

A CVN with half the crew seriously sick wouldn't be very effective in time of war, now would it?