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Considering The Coronavirus .....

How do you feel about open borders now?
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
Narrow-minded and short-sighted as ever I see! Soooo you don't want any tourists visiting either? Never mind the amount of money it brings into you economy... never mind the businesses that rely on tourism, never mind that NO economy now can survive without trading with and dealing with other countries...
And you will ban all your fellow Americans, (that's the minority who even have a passport!) from visiting other countries! Very isolationist, that's really going to help America be leader of the free world isn't it? Your thinking is overly simplistic again!
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
@Moonlightfae Ahh well, here's the thing.... I am in the UK too.. and ahem, you might be surprised to learn what I really think! I don't make that known on here.. But my point is.. it's not the same thing when we are talking about the virus..
PS we really aren't shutting our borders.. if you mean to tourists? Or immigrants.. neither are the case fortunately or unfortunately depending on how you look at it
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Adaydreambeliever LOL, like those "tourists" swimming the Rio Grande?
Moonlightfae · 51-55, F
@Adaydreambeliever yeah i agree that the two issues should be seperated.
SW-User
Even borders that were completely closed to all foreign persons would not have stopped the spread of corona virus. People would still have been returning from China to their native countries.
@Budwick So what are you babbling about? If we have open borders now, it’s Twitler’s fault because he oversees border control.

Typical conservative, creating a straw man again.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@LeopoldBloom Oh yea of short memory!
@Budwick Still waiting for that wall that Mexico's supposed to pay for.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@dondon BA
windinhishair · 61-69, M
Exactly the same. Covid-19 changes nothing about immigration. Are you trying to imply disease is being spread by immigrants again to justify the wall?
@sunsporter1649 Crashing the economy worked well in 2008, which is why the number of illegal immigrants has been stable since then.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote]Crashing the economy worked well in 2008[/quote]

Only a leftist sees crashing the economy as a legit strategy.
@Budwick Since you consider illegal immigration to be the worst possible crime, I'm surprised you're not willing to starve as long as it keeps those horrible people out of the country.
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
@Burnley123 are you saying budwick and jackson are the same person lol 😂
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Who thinks I’m racist? Generally those calling others racist are the actual racists. @JohnOinger
Budwick · 70-79, M
@JohnOinger Hi John!
Of course he does!
It's the latest thing!
First, I'm white - so there's one strike [which I've been informed is not racist.

And treating people equitably is considered clearly racist - cuz, as the left believes, minorities can't make it on their own merit, they need stuff like affirmative action to level the field - and of course that is not racist at all.

So, in review, treating everyone fairly is racist.
I'm glad I could enlighten all you white, racist, nationalist Trump supporters. We can all hang our heads in shame as we lift our hearts and voices in the triumph that is 2020!
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
We should be paid for educating these uninformed lemmings 🤠 @Budwick
Hikingguy · 56-60, M
I see this as same BS we are always hearing about. Bird flu, Asian Flu, Swine flu, etc.
this too will pass.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Hikingguy I don't doubt that a bit.
Sorry excuses for humans.
@Budwick This is what's happening in Iran. The people there have so little trust for the government, they tend to do the exact opposite. Not that different from here. If Trump declares a nationwide lockdown, a lot of people will ignore him.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@LeopoldBloom Only you and the rest of the Socialist Party.
Don't worry - the rest of us will be OK.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
🤦‍♂️
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Budwick My secret code?
You say:

[quote]When viruses are hot - personally, I'd close the borders.
Like, you can't fly in from China right now.
It won't be that way forever.[/quote]

I said:

[quote]Isn't that what we are doing right here?[/quote]

🤷‍♂️ I just don't see why we have to pull the entire "open border" idea into the conversation. Because we aren't having open borders today, and yet the virus has spread. Because having a permanent policy that works and keeps every virus outside the country so that pandemics can't spread. Are like, ridiculous to organise. But when a situation breaks out like now, you take actions?


Let's say you are living in a country like Germanny. And in a town you get an outbreak of a nasty virus. Don't you think that people in Germanny will organise and establish a form of quarantine as a precautionairy measure? Inside Germanny, there are no borders, but yet such a situation can happen. Then the people organise to do damadge control.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 Maybe not actually being here is keeping you from understanding the nuance.
In the ever changing cycle of leftist fanaticism, insisting on open borders was a rally cry not so long ago. They found ways to wage war against the president charging racism, child abuse, on and on.

If they had won the argument, there would have been open borders and far less protection for USA. The question was posed primarily to them.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Budwick How manny people in the democratic party were advocating for open borders?

If there were open borders, their would still be damadge and people would still organise to contain the disease. Do you think that in a system with open borders humanity would just die off or something?
BlueRain · F
Love everyone let all in. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
4meAndyou · F
@BlueRain Love is all you need...and a truckload of antiviral...😂
BlueRain · F
@4meAndyou he he
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Looks like our pal Windbag is blowing some hot air on this thread. He’s so scare of me he blocked me. Tell him he was wrong about Mueller and wrong about impeachment just like I advised him. He blocked me instead of listening. He’s been wrong on every claim he’s made on here. Tell him I said that too please. @sunsporter1649 @Budwick
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
He’s wrong always and lame and he fears me. Tell him that please. . @JohnOinger
Budwick · 70-79, M
@jackjjackson I'm not seeing Windbag here either!
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Guess he blocked you too? @Budwick
nedkelly · 61-69, M
I have never liked open borders
4meAndyou · F
If a nation has no borders, they are no longer a nation, and unable to defend themselves from anything, militarily, or healthwise.

I can certainly see why globalists see that as a desirable goal for the United States. Globalism has one goal...to put all the power into the hands of a wealthy few.
Moonlightfae · 51-55, F
All borders should have been closed and those with the virus prevented from coming home. Shipping people here and there is just making the virus spreading easier.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Moonlightfae Makes perfect sense!
akindheart · 61-69, F
good question!
Budwick · 70-79, M
@akindheart Thank you Ma'am!
Considering that no cases have come from Mexico, the same.

By the way, we don’t have open borders, Adolf.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Go get em Sport 😂 @sunsporter1649
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Some clown foreigner just asked me if I posted this Mr Budwick. What say you?
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
It’s Burnley123. He’s the guy from the U.K. That thinks it was a good idea for the politicians to block the people’s will re Brexit. @Budwick @Budwick
Budwick · 70-79, M
@jackjjackson Ahhh, one of those!
Prolly cuz - you know, the folks in government know more about what we want than we do! [In HIS case, he might be right.]
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Anyone likely knows more than him however the people voted for Brexit because it makes sense and the government has no right to subvert the constitutionally exercised will of the people. @Budwick
Considering the Coronavirus, how do you feel about offshoring our production to China?
Budwick · 70-79, M
@LeopoldBloom About as related as you are to sanity.
You can't simply answer a question?
@Budwick Open borders have nothing to do with this. Are you proposing that we end all travel in and out of the U.S. for the next few months? We'll be lucky to not have a recession because of this; doing that would guarantee one.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@LeopoldBloom There's already some travel bans.
Closing borders is absolutely a consideration.
Niburu · 51-55, M
the antivaxxers already in this country and the possible resurgence of measles and polio concerns me more
Budwick · 70-79, M
@Niburu I assume you've been vaccinated measles and polio.

No one has been vaccinated for coronavirus.
Niburu · 51-55, M
@Budwick coronavirus is no where near as deadly as measles or polio, or the flu for that matter
Niburu · 51-55, M
@Niburu I will add the outbreak of this was sure convenient for the Chinese government to shut down the demonstrations/riots in Hong Kong
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
Rush says it's a deep state plot to unseat Trump.

He couldn't be right , could he ?
Budwick · 70-79, M
@jackjjackson For a short while.
The bickering, yelling, hysteria, lying, caterwauling got to me pretty fast.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
The moderators finally got them under control. Looks like Sanders will sail to the nomination. @Budwick
Budwick · 70-79, M
SW-User
It’s a moot point. So, we don’t have the virus here in a widespread form ...the flu has killed a few thousand Americans 2019-2020.

We all gotta go at some point...
I don’t the Berlin Wall stopped any diseases ..
Budwick · 70-79, M
@SW-User Well, you are a warm and fuzzy piece of very pointy crap!

Open borders would help any plans of containment.,
@Budwick How many Coronavirus carriers from China are coming across the southern border, idiot? They’re flying in. Ready to shut down air travel?

What are you worried about, anyway? Twitler says it’s not a crisis, and Rush says it’s like the common cold. Surely you don’t know more than they do, Dr. Budsmoke?
Budwick · 70-79, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote]How many Coronavirus carriers from China are coming across the southern border, [/quote]

I don't know.
You don't know.
Nobody knows.

That's kind of the point.

There's already travel restrictions.
If there weren't, you would be bitching about that!
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
I’m not happy about any of it, not at all.
Rhodesianman · 56-60, M
close them all
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Rhodesianman Zimbabwe is your origin but I don't judge, you are welcome here.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Racist @Burnley123
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Talking smack, Jack.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
About Windbag? Tell him what I wrote. He knows I am correct and fears me. @Burnley123
JohnOinger · 41-45, M
I welcome them
SkeetSkeet · 100+, F
I still welcome them in.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@SkeetSkeet Good thinking!

 
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