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If you're not anti-war then you're neither fiscally conservative nor pro-life

Just saying
BlueVeins · 22-25
I tend to agree with this, but I go back-and-forth with some wars. Like, obviously the Invasion of Iraq was incredibly stupid and corrupt, the War in Yemen is brutal beyond justification, and the War in Afghanistan has become a stalemate.

But there are some situations that are legitimately difficult now. For example, are we really able to withdraw from Iraq at the moment without causing more violence? Iran has a very strong inside-outside game in Iraq, and if Iran just takes over the country, that would be all the more power they could draw upon for conflicts moving forward (especially conflicts against Israel).

The Syrian Civil War is a bit of a toughie because it's an avenue for Iran to project power against Israel, and there's the issue of kinda punishing the Syrian government for gassing its people. Most foreign policy experts would agree that allowing a government to use gas bombs sets a bad precedent, but aiding the rebels in their resistance effort creates room for ISIS and Al-Qaeda to spring up. And ISIS, of course, will try to plot terror attacks against all kinds of nearby countries.

And then, there are issues with Islamist insurgencies in Africa and east Asia, and... don't even get me started on Pakistan.

For the most part, I think the best solution is to empower the UN Peacekeeping forces to take over some of these conflicts; it would eliminate the legitimate concerns about oil wars and American imperialism without allowing countries to spiral into instability and violence forever.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
"Small government! Fiscal conservation! We can't be spending our hard earned money on welfare that helps the poor or homeless veterans or provides education for children or medicine for the sick!"

"But we can afford to spend nine trillion dollars invading Iraq and Afghanistan even though it's illegal and we can also afford to invade Mali and invade Pakistan and invade Niger and invade Syria and invade Libya and invade Somalia and invade AND blockade Yemen and talk about invading Venezuela and Cuba and Iran and North Korea..."
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@BlueMetalChick keep them coming girl
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@HannibalAteMeOut This is gonna sound dorky and cringy but it reminds me of when I used to do debate team in community college and we talked about this exact issue, and someone said "Name a single country other than Vietnam that the United States has illegally invaded since the end of World War Two" so I started naming countries off the top of my head and how many times we invaded them. Dude starts talking over me while I'm still going on and on until I eventually said Thailand, and he stops and goes "Wait, what? We've never invaded Thailand" and I said "Yeah I know, I just wanted to see if you were still listening" 😂
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@BlueMetalChick hahaha keeping them alert 😂
I’m not anti war..
I’m anti proxy wars by neo cons furthering their global ambitions..
@BlueMetalChick oh shut up with your billshit and fuck off. You always come on here and make blanket statements about what I said .. most likely out of context or made up in your bullshit mind.. go tell someone a another story about your fantasy life you say you’ve lived..
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout "Out of context"
You don't really need any context to tell someone they're a communist because they said that the USA should get out of Iraq and Afghanistan. You don't need any context when you tell someone they hate America because they think it's a bad idea to support Al Qaeda. What context could possibly change that?

You're a chameleon. You just change whatever you say to match what someone else says. Remember when you hated NAFTA and other outsource-heavy trade deals? Then as soon as some random lefty also hated those trade deals, you suddenly started loving them and complained that they "hate progress."
SW-User
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Wow, gotta agree with BMC, this is a 180 from your usual US Right Wing fanboying and circlejerking. Welcome to the left! We really don't like to fight, but we find that it's the only language Republicans understand.

We may even help your country, Australia, win against your conservative overlords!
SW-User
I suppose this all really depends on whatever context you are using. I can think of tons of examples throughout history were going to war was the financially smart thing to do. Some countries are still living of centuries of plunder and loot taken from other places.

I could also give you a few examples where going to war was done in the name of preserving life. all to do with context.
SW-User
@BlueMetalChick 😂 Love it
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@SW-User that's one way to think of it, where war is just a big business and financial investment I guess. Also yeah some people go to war in order to gain their freedom from oppressors/invaders. I'd say this is more of a revolution, though, but yeah sometimes words don't matter that much.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@SW-User indeed there are exceptions like the fight against fascism which was a righteous war against genocidaires.
SW-User
You mean weapons welfare counts as government spending? 😱
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@SW-User oh I could never... 🤯
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
@SW-User "Weapons welfare"
That phrasing is brilliant, I'm copying that. I always called it "welfare for warfare" but I like yours better.
SW-User
[b]gasp[/b] LOGIC.

Get that shit out of here!!
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@SW-User oh no 😂
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
Pro lifers only care about foetuses, once you're born they're fine with you getting killed.
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@basilfawlty89 they're wild 😂
NankerPhelge · 61-69, M
I'm very anti-war.
You're pretty smart for a girl who let Scissorhands finger her vageene.
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@quitwhendone don't know if that's a good or a bad sign 🤔
@HannibalAteMeOut It's a good thing. I am not easily impressed but you have managed to do it. I like your philosophy and politics. You are good people. 👍️
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@quitwhendone thank you 🙂
Conservatives claim to be anti-war, except for the wars they approve of. It’s very convenient.
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@LeopoldBloom hahahah but they approve of most wars
@HannibalAteMeOut Wars that their side is involved in.
AuRevoir · 36-40, M
You're just angry because I blew up your castle.
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@AuRevoir hmm you're right...
AuRevoir · 36-40, M
@HannibalAteMeOut *Hurts!* 😒 And I bet it felt real good to finally admit it too!
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@AuRevoir 😌
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
It really depends. But much of the time it’s just a waste of blood and treasure, yes.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@QuixoticSoul Depends... How much stock you have in the war industry 😅
Lostpoet · M
I'm antiwar
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@Lostpoet that's a cool thing to be
Human1000 · M
Do you mean pacifist? No wars in any circumstance including self-defense?

 
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