A good analysis on impeaching Donald Trump?

One of my favourite YouTube vloggers posted this earlier this evening. It's an interesting analysis, although Carl admits he is not an expert on the American political system.

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2beyAswOSJw]

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peskyone · F

Christianity Today's article today pointed out the obvious -

"But the facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral."

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html

It appears Mr Trump no longer has the evangelical vote.

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wildbill83 · 36-40, M

@PSuss1 The lie being that isn't a crime... Biden blackmailing a foreign dignitary for personal gain is...

PSuss1 · 51-55, M

@wildbill83 I thought the blackmailing thing had already been discredited? But either way, coercing a foreign government to announce an investigation into a political rival is against your Constitution isn't it (it doesn't have to be a crime to be impeachable, as I understand it)?

That's the bit I don't get ... no-one seems to be saying Trump didn't do it, even in the House. So it seems to me the R argument is substantially that 2 wrongs DO make a right ...the end justifies the means? Is that correct?

Lucia · 36-40, T

@PSuss1 Trump is throwing around the word fake-news everytime someone says something that isn't praise of him. And he makes countless factual mistakes in his long speeches.

The notion that this man resorts to lies often is without question. The real question is why the republicans don't react to it. I don't think they don't see or understand it. I think they vote for him for other reasons. Maybe they believe the lie is a necessary evil to win the election.

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I just hope there is sense beyond the word of Trump that makes voters go for him. The long term consequence if the votes on Trump is because he is deemed intelligent, lawful and truthful is not merely a second Trump term. Then it will be the symptom of a crisis of uneducated people who risk bringing about the downfall of US economic and military dominance throughout most of the world. And that will be as big a tragedy for the US as it will for the rest of us.

TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 41-45, MVIP

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Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout There's a theme tho, a connection, a link.. I am surprised, (or not!) that you don't seem to have got it.. they were both Republican presidents and both had mental deficiencies.

TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 41-45, MVIP

@Adaydreambeliever and time think even more.. Reagan and trump are both symptoms of decades of democrap rule 🤣👍

Lucia · 36-40, T

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Reagan actually stood for American freedom. The way Trump goes about it is more about fascism. But that's cool. If it's what you guys are into now, I wont argue with it.

Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M

And all blah blah blah aside, this President asked another to do an illegal act.

That is indefensible.

4meAndyou · F

I think it's pretty accurate. He points out the glaring, blaring, obviousness of the Democrat party who have stated their purpose from Day One. There was no reason for impeachment on Day One, either, but damn! They planned to try to find a reason or die trying...and now they will, (die trying).

Their party is doomed because they've made themselves look so stupid with their Stalinesque hearing, their paper thin articles, and their lack of fact witnesses. Nancy Pelosi warned them, and now it's blowing up in their faces. Eff mouthed Tlaib was giggling with glee and grinning from ear to ear on her way to this so-called "solemn occasion".

Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M

Both sides went about this completely the wrong way.
Trump COULD have been MAGNANIMOUS as simply said "I welcome the challenge of Senator Biden !"

But he didn't !

Trump COULD have gone to ENDLESS official departments within his OWN government, and said "Find me some dirt on this guy !"

But he didn't !

I suspect Impeachment seemed the easiest way of trying to bring the President to account given that all it generally amounts to is an official slap on the wrist in most cases in recent history.

But the Democrats sure have made a meal of it.

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Nimbus · M

@Picklebobble2 And we think our politics is *ucked up!

Heartlander · 80-89, M

@Picklebobble2

[quote] Trump COULD have gone to ENDLESS official departments within his OWN government[/quote]

ENDLESS??? Who? Are you referring to the people in the US DOJ that created the false evidence in obtaining the FISA warrant? Are you referring to State Department staff who are loyal HRC supporters?

In case you missed it, trust in the FBI, the DOJ, the federal government to not set their political bias aside is but a pipe dream.