@Burnley123 If you are a "libertarian"... like a true "libertarian", if those concepts are really what you believe in... then you never end up with borderline or extreme right wing organisation unless you have gone trough a painfull identity crisis.
I think most of the examples you are thinking off, are just posers that don't really understand the idea of libertarianism. Like Lauren... who ran in the libertarian party, but is just as much a libertarian then VI Lennin was. 😅
Aren't most thinkers that started that all from the Island? You don't think conservatives have a point at times? I think Conservatives and Progresives keep eachother real as long as they listen to eachother. This deep cleavage you are seeing where both teams stare at eachother but are less and less able to communicate is seriously unhealthy for both of them.
@Burnley123 There is also something like adopting a term that doesn't belong to you. Like the "democratic republic of congo", congo can call it'self democratic as much as it wants... there is no "diffrence" between the idology and he practise... the democratic part just ain't there. But it sounds good. 👍️
I think everyone that really believes in libertarian values... would have a hard time considering those guys part of the team tough. Except for Dave... but Dave is a pretty ambiguous person all together.
I will vote Labour-but I don’t want a second referendum-but I am in a safe Tory seat so unless David Davies has become unpopular I am stuck with him.The other side of the river is a safe Labour seat.