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What's so bad about using the Office of The President to extort a foreign country to interfere in an election for your own benefit ?

Carla · 61-69, F
Shit, it's all good. A president can do no wrong.
Until, of course, it's a democratic president....
Not that much, if you believe that what's best for the President is what's best for the country, and everything else is secondary, I guess.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@SW-User LOL, you mean that for 4,999,999,998 years the climate never changed, until those damn cows farted?
SW-User
@sunsporter1649 i think we are at the whatever point, you refuse to even consider the possibiltiy
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@SW-User One thing, and one thing only, drives the climate. Its called the sun.
monte3 · 70-79, M
Yeah! Nothing to see here, move along.
Anyway it’s fake news. And it would be fine if it were true.
The Saudis have spent so much time in Trumps hotel that they get a free war.
Northwest · M
It's one of the perks of the office, that's why Donald wanted to be President. 👌
SW-User
@Northwest and getting people to stay at your hotels
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Northwest You mean it wasn't out selflessness and a sense of public duty after all ?
Northwest · M
@RodionRomanovitch Tough call, but I will go with narcissism.
Pfuzylogic · M
this reminds me so much about Nixon only Nixon was intelligent and knew when it was time to go.
Pfuzylogic · M
@Stilltryinghard
I haven’t seen that type of evidence! 😂
@Pfuzylogic read the true childhood histories
before you resort to unfounded...

ridicule

sheeeesh!
Pfuzylogic · M
@Stilltryinghard
If you want to stalk my response either bring it or shut it! 😉
SW-User
Oh Pez, that's easy. All you have to do is [b]say[/b] it's FAKE NEWS and then it automatically isn't true and [b]you[/b] are the victim.
SW-User
@SW-User 😂
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@SW-User' All you have to do is say it's FAKE NEWS and then it automatically isn't true ' - and then admit to it all the following day. 🤔
SW-User
@RodionRomanovitch Oh sure. That will work too.
Graylight · 51-55, F
Right? So godd*amned PC.
🙄
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
Budwick · 70-79, M
You guys think if you say it enough, it will be true?
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Budwick [quote]How about the billion of tax dollars given to Ukraine in return for the bribe[/quote] I like how threatening to withhold aid until a widely acknowledged obstacle to corruption is removed, is a bribe.

But withholding aid to make a client state dig up dirt on your election opponents is totally ok 😂
Budwick · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul [quote]a widely acknowledged obstacle[/quote]

That 'obstacle' was bringing the hammer down on Hunter.
Inconvenient timing?
Is that why Hunter was on Air Force 2?
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Budwick No, he was not bringing the hammer down on Hunter. That is what I mean when I say that you know nothing about Shokin, Burisma, or Ukraine.

In fact, him consistently burying investigations against oligarchs and their interests, Burisma included, is what made him an obstacle.
Dshhh · M
not a damn thing,
likewise the "Emoluments clause" of the constitution,
what is the POINT of achieving high office if you cant use it for personal gain?

💥
SW-User
Because that's an abuse of power.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
well ..because it plays into the hands of an unscrupulous mega power with known evil intent.. and ultimately is the opposite of for your own benfit??
JeanAnna · F
It's against the law.
JeanAnna · F
@sunsporter1649 Vice President Biden has done nothing wrong according to the Ukranian government. But Trump is constantly breaking the law that's why his impeachment is moving forward.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JeanAnna https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urTk6O4c0mU&app=desktop
Graylight · 51-55, F
@sunsporter1649 YouTube. Hee-larious.
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Budwick · 70-79, M
I see lot's pf back patting anti-Trumpers here.
Any of you have something that even resembles evidence?
SW-User
@Budwick i dont really think obamas book is equal to what pres trump is doing, but ill tell you what i sure hope we find out, and if you are right then in 2020 the dems are gonna get their asses kicked, but if it is a strong case, even if senate doesnt convict and we all know they wont, trump gets his ass kicked.
either way the American people are gonna decide
Budwick · 70-79, M
@SW-User Great.
Let's talk again after the election!
SW-User
@Budwick of course
firefall · 61-69, M
or using some CIA scrubs to spy on your domestic political opponents, for that matter.
JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M
Fake it till you make it is an American standard
Its terrible cause it shows u the incapacity of this country to fix anything that needs fixing. If we can't have uncorrupted elections (or unmurdered presidents) what else can we have that would mean anything to WE THE PEOPLE?
You just might end up losing that election despite all the Tom Foolery like Hillary tried.
@QuixoticSoul Russia took out $60,000 in ads on Facebook hardly a sweeping campaign to rig an election in the favor of anyone at all. BFD! That is the only proof 2 years of investigations has yielded the rest is hubris by the Insane stream media and DNC. Sadly it is the uniformed voters who will blindly vote party lines no matter what mud is being flung in which direction and how the 2020 election will be decided and whoever can make up the most bullshit will win and the Liberals are off to a blinding start.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@CruiserCruiserCruiser You’re wildly uninformed if you’re characterizing Russian involvement in the ‘16 election as $60k worth of Facebook ads.
@CruiserCruiserCruiser

[quote]Have you forgotten Obama's overture to Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev during his own re-election where "things will be so much easier" when he got re-elected?? [/quote]

"whataboutism" at its finest, of course. Obama was [b]trashed[/b] by the GOP for that exchange, which occurred in public, so why all the excuses for Trump, who often excluded the U.S. media ?

And actually, the conversation that was overheard ([b]because[/b] the U.S. media had access) was:

[quote]As he was leaning toward Medvedev in Seoul, Obama was overheard asking for time — “particularly with missile defense” — until he is in a better position politically to resolve such issues.

“I understand your message about space,” replied Medvedev, who will hand over the presidency to Putin in May.

“This is my last election … After my election I have more flexibility,” Obama said, expressing confidence that he would win a second term.

“I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” said Medvedev, Putin’s protégé and long considered number two in Moscow’s power structure.[/quote]

Not the same thing as asking for assistance in [b]winning[/b] the election. And again, Trump has said [b]he[/b] considers [b]that[/b] okay.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
What's so bad about using the office of the President to extort a foreign country to interfere in a criminal investigation for their families benefit?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@RodionRomanovitch Damn, forgot again, goddamndemocrats are incapable of committing criminal activity. I apologize
@sunsporter1649 blues are all crooks. I get that you see it like that.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Stilltryinghard I am sure that somewhere there are some goddamndemocrats that are clean, I just have not looked under enough rocks yet
KA9ha · 31-35, M
he was guest of honour
SmartKat · 56-60, F
Yeah, what....? 🤔

 
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