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Does white privilege exist?

Privilege is a very touchy subject. Some people say whites are privileged, some say just white males are privileged, some say that blacks are privileged, and some say it’s the rich that are privileged.

Normally I don’t chime in with my personal opinions but as a Norse Pagan I believe we it is up to us to determine pure success. Nobody is above or under one another.

Any way, dicuss and like always, be civil.
GardenSage · 36-40, M Best Comment
We all benefit from unique privileges and standards if we know how to exploit them. Also, the concept of privileges arises from coveting and comparing two distinct positions. Some things just aren’t comparable... I’ll never know what it’s like to have men buy drinks for me just because I’m pretty or for people to automatically think I’m cool just because I’m black.
TakingBackMidgard · 26-30, M
@GardenSage beautifully said, friend. I feel everyone even individually has advantages and disadvantages depending the circumstance. A homeless man in NYC might have it better off than an indigenous tribesman in the Amazon but that tribesman also has some advantages.

But we should all be humble and not worry about other people’s up bringing nor should we assume and mention them.
GardenSage · 36-40, M
@TakingBackMidgard exactly... the fulcrum is your perspective on life... shitty perspectives often yield to feelings of victimization...

Asm0deus · F
[center]*snacks on popcorn and awaits the comments* 😂[/center]
TakingBackMidgard · 26-30, M
@Asm0deus so far I’ve been getting great responses on my questions I’ve been asking. My whole point is to see if we can discuss touchy subjects civilly. And so far so good
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
It's a misunderstood concept.

People think white privilege means they don't have problems.

No, nobody is saying that.

It means their problems are unrelated to their race.

You can be white and poor unhappy miserable dying whatever. You can be black and rich famous and wealthy.

But in aggregate, white people do better on every statistical measure, and individual white people will never deal with daily racism. The wealthiest most powerful black person still deal with racism the poorest white person will not.
TakingBackMidgard · 26-30, M
@CountScrofula that brings up a great point for other questions. Like is that just our society? Can you be racist towards white people?

It’s been tossed around and people try to manipulate the definition of racism to fit their desired mind set.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@TakingBackMidgard The way I see it the "racism is all equally bad" argument is kind of divorced from reality. Dictionary definitions are fine for quick reference the world is more complciateed than that.

Simple test is the racial slur test.

'Cracker' is the strongest racial slur for white people I know. No white person is going to feel that word like a weapon used to wound them.

The n-word, a word so strong I'm not comfortable writing it out? Entirely different force and meaning, and impact on the person who hears it.

If all racism is equal, those words hsould harm equally - and they don't.

So if you can be racist to white people... not in a way that really matters IMHO. In a society where white people aren't in charge, differnet situation.
TakingBackMidgard · 26-30, M
@CountScrofula way to dissect the and explain piece by piece. And this is more so relevant in American society. I’m not so much accustomed to other places around the world.

I feel so many people want to rip the scab off the wound that was our past to help it heal however when a wound has a scab it’s already healing.

I feel something started this whole privilege rhetoric and it has opened the wound back up.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
Let's count them.

1. Susceptibility to solar skin damage leading to skin cancer.

2. A highly probable chance of skin acne and a somewhat lesser one of massive rampant crater face, adolescent angst and disfigurement.

3. Getting lured into believing stupid lies at a young age about everybody having unlimited opportunities only to find out how obscene this lie is due to fixed economic, national origin of surname, and appearance demarcation lines.

4. Idiots in your own race that are extremely successful even though they're only successful because they chose wealthy parents to be born from. Telling you how it amazes them how you're "wasting you'r potential" at a working class job. See number 3.

5. Knowing every stumbling block that can be placed before only a white person and got away with that even the historically disadvantaged couldn't even contemplate as possible and being thought a typical white devil liar or exaggerator when you share what you know.

6. Being persecuted harassed and having to tread extra carefully in a neighborhood you grew up in because now you find yourself among the few remaining whites in an area of a different race majority. And finally being violently driven out by radicalized poor people.

7. Having every race in your country having at least some people that identify themselves by it claiming you personally and your ancestors generally have persecuted them and are their obstacle in life.

Even if your ancestors were persecuted themselves and you share a genetic link with that race.


Should I continue?
ozgirl512 · 26-30, F
Just a big bit!
I've been thinking on the orange comb overs comments the other day and suddenly realised that white is like the default colour... Everything else is less in many people's eyes ... And yes I'm white and yes it's wrong
I believe there are privileges for everyone, not just whites. You can always find a privilege for any race.
However if we are talking about white privilege check this out :

White privilege is when Kylie Jenner is praised for wearing cornrows, while when Zendaya wears cornrows (which is naturally a part of her culture), she "smells like patchouli oil or weed.” That is white privilege lol

Just sayin...
TakingBackMidgard · 26-30, M
@Awfullybrave it’s like the double standard. Would that be white privilege or celebrity privilege.
@TakingBackMidgard I see what you mean by that..it could be as well
@TakingBackMidgard Also if I have to say there is black privilege as well such as Black History Month."
So everyone gets some I think
Brown privilege exists 😎
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
Of course it exists. And class privilege is even more obvious.

It doesn't mean that success is impossible, and it doesn't mean that it's always easy for white people. Everyone's situation is extremely unique, and rarely defined by their skin color.

But things just tend to go a little bit smoother for you when you're white, and especially when you're not poor. And you're a lot more likely to start out not poor right off the bat, too.

Probably the biggest source of privilege or handicap in life we all get is our parents. Race, class, character, genetics, education, country of birth, etc - some people are luckier than others when it comes to that stuff. This is just part of life, we all have to make the best of it.
xixgun · M
I think anyone who claims I have privilege hasn't the first fucking clue about my life.
I grew up in an impoverished family with a father that was too proud to accept help, so that his kids could get proper nutrition. We had a black and white tv until I was 17 years old. The first car I ever owned, I bought. Nobody gave me anything or gave a flying fuck that I was white.
So, after reliving my vivid memories of eating eggs every day 3 times a day for over a month (because my dad had a friend who worked at a hatchery); tell me again how fucking privileged I'm supposed to be.
https://twitter.com/WORLDSTAR/status/1139630464313020416
katielass · F
Each of us are privileged in some way.
Of course it exists
TakingBackMidgard · 26-30, M
@SStarfish cafe to give some reasons? Not agreeing or disagreeing just keeping the dialogue alive
MrSmooTh · 31-35, M
I would say it may have like 20 years ago. But nowadays people of all races are doing extraordinary things. Really there's no reason why anyone can't do something they want to do if they work at it hard enough.
Mrsbetweenfatandfit · 26-30, F
I think that many misunderstand what white privilege is supposed to mean. It isn’t necessarily that you were given better opportunities etc but that simply because you are white certain prejudices aren’t applied. Like that man Jose ( can’t recall the last name) from the news story he was applying for several jobs over the course of months. Supposedly he decided to try something by editing only his first name by one letter. Making it Joe etc he had all the same references, job experience & reapplied to places finding he did get many responses. Of course we can’t say for sure it had to do with his name but it is an interesting story. I think it’s not an easy topic because of course how do you expect a person to apologize or consistently acknowledge a treatment they aren’t responsible for. While also recognizing other people can be judged immediately negatively for not being white. It’s not a simple conversation but it can be a hot button topic with many people.
TakingBackMidgard · 26-30, M
@Mrsbetweenfatandfit it’s a very touchy subject and I am happy to see so many of us coming together to hear each other out.

With your comment about Jose. I’ve seen cases like this and I can’t figure out if it would be considered a form of privilege or corruption?

And by corruption I mean such as a racist hiring manager. And if that’s the case do we hold it against the white person who was hired by the racist hiring manager or should we hold the racist hiring manager responsible for his or her subjective mind set?

Of course this is all situational and could be different anywhere around the world.
This is so well articulated. I think many right away feel put on defense upon the mere suggestion that they've benefitted from historical inequity, when it isn't a personal indictment of anyone's skin color or denial of the effort they've personally put forth to make their life what it is. It is a conversation about the additional obstacles non-white people endure as a result of not being white.@Mrsbetweenfatandfit
No and she explains this very well.

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HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
So how much cash do I get?
TakingBackMidgard · 26-30, M
Care to chime in and explain? @ShaythePanTransMan
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No, I do not. It is true that some people hold certain prejudices and treat people differently according to race, ethnicity, sex et cetera, but it is far more nuanced than "white people are privileged". it isn't only non white people who have to deal with prejudices and it isn't only white people who hold positions of authority

 
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