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Do you think colleges are indoctrinating students?

Do you believe that colleges are using their acadamia to indoctrinate their student body to believe left leaning politics?

Yes or No, explain.
SW-User Best Comment
I’m probably going to upset some people who usually seem to agree with me. I’m not sure if coordinated indoctrination is happening within the classrooms. I suppose it is happening anecdotally in various directions depending on the leanings of the faculty member. In my own college experience, I had an English professor who was [i]very[/i] liberal and was not bashful about incorporating his opinions in the lectures and even favored students in discussions who agreed with him. Conversely, I had a Philosophy professor who was extremely right-leaning, and he would constantly link Aristotle with Reagan in the most positive light while deriding Plato and Socrates and drawing unfavorable comparisons to Clinton. My learning experience in both courses suffered due to professors who thought it was more important to soapbox and sidebar than it was to teach the material.

Here’s where some might take umbrage with me. Even though I disagree with the far right on many things, it bothers me to see their speakers shouted down, attacked, and run off campus. Instead, people with opposing viewpoints should challenge them and debate them civilly. The idea that college students need safe spaces where their thoughts and ideas aren’t challenged seems counterintuitive to what college is supposed to be about. This is the time that these students should be developing their critical thinking and honing their debate skills. They should emerge fully developed to enter a world where not everyone sees everything the same as they do. I think colleges that don’t encourage free speech and rigorous yet civil debate aren’t living up to their responsibility.
daisymay · 51-55, T
@SW-User [quote]challenge them and debate them civilly[/quote]

No. They lost that courtesy long ago.
MrsKatherineArch · 41-45, F
I agree with you @SW-User

4meAndyou · F
Yes, I do believe that. Berkeley is a prime example. Left leaning professors are not the problem, although I have heard stories of classroom humiliation and F grades for disagreeing with the professor's political view.

“In college, you are told it is a time where you get to be whoever you want to be, but in my first semester, I learned that you are to be what they want you to be. Having a professor who told my class that if you disagree with her political views, she will take off points, I learned that it is better to sometimes keep opinions to yourself. However, when sitting in my political science class, I am told that republicans are ‘trolls,' ‘ignorant’ and that there is no helping us. You would think the professors would be adults in these situations and stay objective but when most of them are left liberals, they are acting like children and send out the message that you are not allowed to think for yourself.”
https://www.freshu.io/samantha-losurdo/what-its-really-like-being-a-conservative-at-a-liberal-college-university

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/53-college-students-feel-intimidated-when-disagreeing-their

http://thedailyaztec.com/83586/news/college-campuses-not-friendly-to-conservative-students-some-say/

When radically left leaning administrations become totalitarian despots who wish to prevent their students exposure to any ideas other than radical left ideas. Portland University Oregon is another such. Anti-fa is right there in both locations, becoming physically violent toward anyone who wants to share conservative ideas.

https://futurefemaleleader.com/disinvited-conservatives-not-welcome/

https://www.thecollegefix.com/intolerant-liberals-shout-down-conservative-speakers-on-campus/

https://www.thecollegefix.com/cornell-fails-students/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/05/02/a-university-moved-to-fire-a-professor-after-he-defended-a-students-right-to-debate-gay-marriage-now-hes-suing/
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Academia is critical thought - you're literally taught to challenge core concepts of your education if said education is any good. Indoctrination is bad education.

Further more, since when are all the STEM folks left wing? Since when are business majors left wing? Economics majors? Accountants?

I'm literally a union vice president for university professors. If everyone here was "indoctrinated" my union work would be a lot fucking easier.
TakingBackMidgard · 26-30, M
@SW-User Same. This is more so I want to do writing on my free time about current situations.

This was a question I’ve seen and wanted to hear everyone’s input.

I went to Perdue University and got my Masters in environmental science. Granted I opted out of gen we course by doing them online before hand.

Never seen a thing via indoctrination.

However I went to Ivy Tech and IUSB for computer science and the Gen ed they have their such as sociology I’ve been told even by some of my more left leaning friends seemed biased.

I wouldn’t know though as I never took that class.
SW-User
@TakingBackMidgard I wouldn't be surprised if there was somewhat of a bias, but calling it indoctrination in the vein of Maoist re-education is kind of silly.
TakingBackMidgard · 26-30, M
@SW-User yeah I’m
Pretty sure where some people might see indoctrination is more so a biased professor charmed a student.

But it can be different anywhere.

We all have the choice to accept or deny what we are given
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
No, I think they are just preaching to the already converted.. it's well known that intelligent people tend to be lefter leaning.. it's not hard to work out why if one is intelligent..
Fernie · F
@SW-User left is right...you didn't get the memo?
@SW-User Great comeback.
SW-User
It was better than taking 3 sentences to essentially say the right is dumb. @canusernamebemyusername
daisymay · 51-55, T
No. The number one reason to believe it isn't happening is because it isn't happening.

The second best reason to believe it isn't happening is because conservatives are convinced it is happening.
Fernie · F
@daisymay 😂👍️
TexChik · F
Absolutely I do .
MrsKatherineArch · 41-45, F
I do believe that some people within higher education use their position to push an agenda.
MrsKatherineArch · 41-45, F
Indeed I did @Fernie and I told you that I’m not interested in an argument.
Fernie · F
@MrsKatherineArch you can't back up your first comment...we ask and ask for some facts and you feel disrespected....that's a bit thin skinned
MrsKatherineArch · 41-45, F
You didn’t see the link I posted (separately)? @Fernie
ShaythePanTransMan · 22-25, T
Actually, kind of. My high school was extremely liberal Democrat. All the social studies teachers were such, and some pressed their views very forcefully. I remember my American History and Current Issues teacher argued with a conservative Republican girl about her views and gave her a poor grade on her paper. One of the few Republicans in the school told me that he told a girl that he was Republican and she answered, “oh, that’s bad.” My school had over 1,000 people in it, and I recall only knowing 3 Republicans, a girl who talked way too much to the point where she was blind to social nuances, a girl who acted a bit homophobic and transphobic towards me, and a guy that regularly wore anti-liberal political shirts just after Trump became president. I was friends with a trans girl in freshman year that often made jokes about murdering conservatives.

I don’t know if that spreads to college though.
Fernie · F
@ShaythePanTransMan I'm thinking the school you went to was very, very expensive
ShaythePanTransMan · 22-25, T
@CountScrofula That is horrid. I’m so glad I live in the more liberal northeast XD Actually, here teachers seem to be paid well. My Personal Finance teacher said he makes over $100,000 a year, but then again he’s been teaching there a long time. All of my teachers were amazing except for my Photography teacher. Yeah, that’s true.
@Fernie It was actually a public school in one of the richest towns in my state. It’s one of the top schools in my state. They gave me a beyond fantastic education, and I’m very grateful towards the school, especially with all their advanced and current and passionate computer sciences courses. I took Intro. to (Java) Programming, Intro. to Web Programming, an independent study in CS, Building Web Applications (the one I’m most grateful for), and AP CS Principles. I would’ve taken Embedded Systems, but it didn’t fit in my schedule. The social studies courses in particular were very, very good.
MrsKatherineArch · 41-45, F
On that I can agree. I was never “singled out” for my views politically in college because I kept them to myself. But some of the vitriol right now has gone too far, regardless of where someone falls on the political spectrum.
I am very happy that I am not a current student in this environment!@CountScrofula
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
Yes. Without question.
daisymay · 51-55, T
@HoraceGreenley You misspelled "proof"
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@daisymay I didn't. The college professor did
daisymay · 51-55, T
@HoraceGreenley "proof" is not spelled "question"
Not just .. All sorts of places and people push their own agendas and doctrines and opinions not just schools
GunSmoke9 · 56-60, M
Without a doubt. How else can you explain so many young people believing so much in socialism?
MrsKatherineArch · 41-45, F
https://www.nj.com/education/2018/04/a_nj_prof_dropped_the_f-bomb_on_his_conservative_s.html
daisymay · 51-55, T
@MrsKatherineArch Indoctrination is a process by which one is brought in to a belief system.

If the oppressed conservative student is strong enough in his convictions, how could he be indoctrinated? What is the full path of indoctrination by this faculty member? Or, did you have other specific faculty members in mind in your original response?

It seems you're just complaining about how the conservative snowflake got his feelings hurt rather than showing actual proof of indoctrination. 🤷‍♀️
MrsKatherineArch · 41-45, F
I’m not “complaining”. Sadly, when that faculty member holds your future in his or her hands, it IS a method of indoctrination. @daisymay
daisymay · 51-55, T
@MrsKatherineArch Okay, bemoaning, then. That's so different.
Fernie · F
I really hope so
DunDunDun · 22-25, F
Clearly not, someone in their 20's is old enough to think for themselves. How do you indoctrinate someone who's already an adult? That's dumb
4meAndyou · F
@DunDunDun I guess they CAN be old enough to think for themselves, but thinking back to ME at that age, I was easily bullied and dumb as a post.
DunDunDun · 22-25, F
@4meAndyou well yeah lots of people are stupid but if you're that old and that easily brainwashed then idk what to tell you
4meAndyou · F
@DunDunDun In my life I've swung all around in my views. I think it's part of the process of learning that there are six sides to every issue.
SW-User
*grabs popcorn* politics are fucking retarded regardless of the side, but go off peeps.
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