so like. there are more empty homes than homeless people by far
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
Do you think the homeless want a house?
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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
I don’t think there are actually more empty homes than homeless people.
As a system of managing production and allocating resources, capitalism has been spectacularly successful.
And our anemic level of social services has nothing to do with capitalism either. People don’t seem to understand what terms like capitalism and socialism actually mean. A capitalist country can still have universal healthcare, public housing, etc. That stuff has nothing to do with capitalism, socialism, or any other ism - in the end it boils down to not being a dick.
As a system of managing production and allocating resources, capitalism has been spectacularly successful.
And our anemic level of social services has nothing to do with capitalism either. People don’t seem to understand what terms like capitalism and socialism actually mean. A capitalist country can still have universal healthcare, public housing, etc. That stuff has nothing to do with capitalism, socialism, or any other ism - in the end it boils down to not being a dick.
clooo · 22-25, T
@QuixoticSoul oh dear. you're a good person but there's so much wrong with... well, all of that. 😥
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@clooo 🤷♂️
LeopoldBloom · M
@QuixoticSoul Exactly. Bernie Sanders calls himself a "Democratic Socialist," but he's not; he's a capitalist who wants to expand certain social programs, like health care and education.
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clooo · 22-25, T
@AgapeLove i am, in theory, a communist, yes.
but to be clear, i'm a *post-scarcity communist*. much like karl marx himself, i don't think we're ready for communism yet. once we can automate menial tasks and provide basic human needs without appreciable cost, communism please. until them, socialism will have to do.
and communism isn't everyone "owning the same amount of things". gosh, cold war propaganda really runs deep in american society doesn't it.
but to be clear, i'm a *post-scarcity communist*. much like karl marx himself, i don't think we're ready for communism yet. once we can automate menial tasks and provide basic human needs without appreciable cost, communism please. until them, socialism will have to do.
and communism isn't everyone "owning the same amount of things". gosh, cold war propaganda really runs deep in american society doesn't it.
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MartinTheFirst · 22-25, M
There is no solution to it. No single man will give away what he has fought for to someone who hasn't.
MartinTheFirst · 22-25, M
@clooo The only difference between communism and socialism is that in communism, the state forces people to convert to socialism.
clooo · 22-25, T
@MartinTheFirst okay i'm happy to have a debate with you but maybe go actually read what communism and socialism actually fucking are first because... wow
LeopoldBloom · M
@MartinTheFirst "The state" forces people to do a lot of things. The question is what the state forces you to do. Arguably, all taxpayer-funded government programs, like the military, law enforcement, roads, public schools, etc. are socialistic.
NativeOregonian · 51-55
Time to take the money away from corporatists and make them live in their own slums.
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
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