Anyone else troubled by the claims that Iran is responsible for attacks...?

"It doesn't make sense."

It makes complete sense.

1. Iranians are at proxy war with Saudi Arabia

2. Saudis are selling all the cheap oil they could be selling right now

3. Revolutionary guards have been doing things like this all their history. Sepah e Quds was involved in killing half a million Syrians just a few years back when Obama was dealing with Iran.

But apart from their history of violence and terror, Revolutionary guards have been more provocative than ever these past few months and one can only read the news to see what they've done.

Again, they also openly threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz and stop the movement of oil tankers. They literally said that.

And again, all the evidence that are there now points to them. Nobody around Persian gulf has that power AND the will to do such thing.

"The last thing Iran wants or needs now is war."

And that's why they've been doubling down on their resources and pressure in their proxy wars?

Iran's government has an industry of war, like every other dictatorship. They choose to give their taxpayer money to Assad, Huthis, and Iraqi and Afghan militants while their own people suffer and starve.

That's probably because they don't want war and are so peaceful.

A war with America is their end of course. But if the government is losing all control and the oligarchy of Mullahs in Iran is in the danger of being toppled, which it is right now, they will be more than happy to begin a war just to have a chance to stay in power.


"I think that another country"

Which country? I guess you'd say it's "Israel" again. lol No war for Israel?

I'll put it this way - I don't know what the cause of the damage shown on that video was.

But I do know that there is absolutely no reason the United States gets the benefit of the doubt. John Bolton is the maestro here and the guy is a liar and a warmonger and should not be trusted at all.

Well. If we had a government that was transparent, honest, and responsive to inquiry then we wouldn't have quandaries like this.

We can't even be honest at the level of whether there's milk in the icebox. So. Yea. There is a lot to wonder about

Being the Japanese on the ship day they were hit by a flying object, as in they watched it fly at them and hit their ship, I’m going to say that blaming Iran And claiming they put explosives on the side of the ship is a pretty solid lie to start a conflict.

Tens of millions of people are starvng in Africa.

And instead of doing something about that we're supposed to be worried about one fanatical Islamic regime taking actions that will financially hurt another fanatical Islamic regime and thus send oil prices skyward for the Chinese and hurt their economy?

Gulf of Trumpkin incident

When MBS says that Iran is responsible, and action must be taken, what other proof would you like?

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I don’t believe anyone “wants to start a war” with Iran, though there are several countries which might be willing to do so if they judged it necessary in their national interest. I think the attacks, apparently or allegedly by Iran, need to be looked at alongside Iran’s statement that it will shortly start enriching uranium in contravention of the Obama nuclear deal. That also seems illogical, on the face of it, at the present juncture. I suggest two possible explanations. First, Iran judges Trump’s threats to be bluff, or an opening salvo from which he will partly resile. So by upping the ante Iran actually expects to cause Trump to back down, or at least calm down. Second, these actions and announcements may really be about internal Iranian politics, with different factions trying to show their strength as the regime creaks under pressure from US sanctions.

I think that average citizens, such as myself, haven't seen the films taken of the Iranian naval boats, nor will we until much later.

Apparently Pompeo has a sheaf of documents and films from satellites, which he plans to present to our allies, so that all oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman can be accompanied by destroyers from our own Navy and from the Navies of our Allies to protect them. We did that in the 1980's the last time Iran tried the same thing, under Reagan.

Iran is doing this so that they will make other countries around the world fear that their oil supplies will be disrupted if the United States continues in levying their strict sanctions, and that they will then bring pressure to bear on the United States.

I agree with your thoughts. Iran gains nothing from such an attack now. I am thinking of Saudi Arabia. After all, the royal family is alive and well in power, probably empowered, after Khashoggi's murder.

Very well could be a false flag attack. But the leaders of Iran have made threats, maybe they should have kept their mouths shut.

Yes. The US is so desperate for a war against Iran they’ll do anything to make that country look bad. It’s sad.

No alliance wants to start a war. Possibly multi-national corporations do (for the profit of it), but they would not risk their brands to do it even if they had the resources to do it. It is not yet clear who started it and with everyone denying it, we know one thing: the country with the least interest in having a war (by your calculation: Iran) is probably the most likely culprit.

These are my thoughts, too. There are 3 or 4 other countries that would love to destabilise the Middle East.

Well they've done it before,I wouldn't doubt if they did it again. But I have no clue,the truth will come out.

With the Saudi crown prince involved.
I smell a huge rat!

Not Iran - but was it Iraq that started the oil fires that took 6 months to put out ? I wouldn't put it past the Iranians from doing something similar.

I heard it was Mexican submarines

I doubt Iran did it, there are conflicting reports. It seems intentional to try to provoke war with Iran.

The whole situation as presented does seem to be rather counter-productive for them, and entirely too convenient for some other regional and international powers - makes me question what exactly is going on.

I thought they have proof. Some kind of a video footage. Both the UK and the US says it was Iran.

[quote]I think that another country (possibly an alliance) that wants to start a war there is responsible. [/quote]

Like who?

Does your theory require proof too?

who is the worlds leader?

i mean the things we already know about USA by now should confirm suspicions if anything