There are studies and Federal data that show both 'deportable immigrants' and crime dropped with the building of the El Paso wall - to the point where El Paso was recognized as among the safer cities in the US.
However - it is nigh on to impossible anymore to find statistics uncolored by agenda - by either political side.
What the citizens of El Paso want is anybody's guess and until numbers are crunched by somebody blind to the political effects of the numbers but keen on the true meaning - there's no knowing.
@jackjjackson I want to go on record as saying I don't think certainly immigration and probably not illegal aliens are respomsible for crime rate increases. There are some studies that show the opposite - that cities experiencing the largest increase in immigrants had a faster decrease in crime.
@QuixoticSoul Here isa timely statement on 'what's going on in Albuquerque.' It was prefaced about a statement by a police officer describing his experience in chasing a suspect who had just shot another man in the head. A crowd gathered around yelling 'racist pigs' and accusing the police of planting a gun on the suspect. The officer said, 'I knew then I didn't want to be a cop anymore.'
From KOAT TV, Albuquerque:
[quote]Just a year earlier, the city of Albuquerque had reached a court settlement agreement with the DOJ after an investigation found that the “Albuquerque Police Department engages in a pattern or practice of use of excessive force including the use of unreasonable deadly force,” DOJ attorneys said in a 2014 news conference.
At the time, there had been 36 officer-involved shootings in just four years.
More than four years later, Target 7 has found that nearly all of the cities that reached settlement agreements or consent decrees with the DOJ during the same time as Albuquerque have seen double-digit increases in violent crime - crimes like murders, rapes and robberies. Cops are also leaving the departments.[/quote]
I think they said there were 20 murders in the last 8 years in El Paso , but there has been over 2000 murders in the same amount of time on the other side of that wall in Juarez... I doubt anyone really wants that wall coming down, unless you’re living is in drugs or trafficking
He said he worries that the wall there forces people to cross the border in more dangerous places, so his first concern is how easy it is for people to enter illegally,not stopping them. He is a whacko
Not what the current polls say but it’s a long ways out. The Dems have a history of division and not selecting the best candidate and the losers not supporting the nominee. We will see. @QuixoticSoul
I haven't seen any data or studies on that, but it wouldn't surprise me. There has always been a close relationship between El Paso and Ciudad Juarez. There was no wall when I lived there, and it wasn't a problem. In fact, there was a large road race called the Friendship Race that was held each September to celebrate Mexican Independence. It started at the large public park in downtown Juarez, ran through the streets and over the international bridge into El Paso, through the streets of El Paso, back across another international bridge, and finishing back in the public park. Hundreds of thousands of people turned out on the national holiday to watch. We need more celebrations and fewer walls.
@jackjjackson When I lived there, 12 pesos was equal to a dollar. Now it is 19.25 pesos to the dollar. But it was devalued by a factor of 1000, so my 12 pesos is equal to 19,250 of yours. I wouldn't keep it as a long-term business if I was you.
@Deadcutie Well, what I found was that El Paso is 79+% Hispanic, and presumably so is Juarez.
A great deal of the difference between cities is how much freedom drug cartels have to operate and how bad they get stung if they step out of line. Another is the amount of opportunity to do [i]better[/i] legally.
As you say, though, statistics are paid for by the ones who have the most to lose if the numbers look bad.
@Mamapolo2016 well it’s 80% of Hispanic ethnicity , ethinticity and race are individually exclusive. They are identified as white, or white hispanic.. whites of non Hispanic ethnicity is 14% The main point is the near absence of another race...... [image]
