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Chrsitine Blasey Ford - DO NOT TESTIFY MONDAY

Christine Blasey Ford has no obligation to testify in the hearing Monday. She should absolutely stand her ground that an investigation be conducted first and foremost.

Her testifying in a hearing before politicians/lawmakers is ABSOLUTELY the WRONG FORUM in which for her to speak about, assuming it to be true, such a deeply disturbing situation. What we do know is that the hearing will surely degrade into a character assassination of a woman and/or a man both of whom should be appearing and discussing the details of the event(s) that allegedly took place in front of authorities (police, FBI, whatever appropriate agency should investigate) so personal accounts can be properly documented, witnesses interviewed and versions of the events properly evaluated as to what, if anything, should be done with truth being sought and charges being filed, as appropriate.

In NO WAY should she appear, testify and answer questions by senators with political and professional (and some personal) agendas. This is NOT the time, nor place, no forum to explore what did/did not happen.

This hearing, should it happen and she testify, will be embarrassing, disturbing and degrading for everyone; Kavanaugh, Ford, Committee Members who will disgrace themselves as much as Kavanaugh and Ford and all Americans as to how we conduct ourselves and will be a complete mockery of our process, government and character.

Everyone, Republicans and Democrats, delay this confirmation and give this the appropriate attention it deserves.

Shame... shame... shame on anyone who thinks she should testify in this forum and this confirmation hearing shouldn’t be delayed.
Graylight · 51-55, F
And thus the request for an separate FBI investigation. There the facts could've been gathered and examined, there the witnesses could've been interviewed and there some truth might've come out. Instead, we're left with the court of public opinion and a story told in a room of men who've mostly already reached conclusions along party lines.

Except to hear Grassley tell it, "that's not what the FBI does." Unless it's nominee Clarence Thomas and accuser Anita Hill in 1991, which is when they did [i]exactly[/i] that.
Sinnerwithaheart · 56-60, F
@bonviveur Does not matter to me what you think.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Sinnerwithaheart If you're this hostile towards others, why even be on a site like this?
bonviveur · F
@Sinnerwithaheart Why?

Compelled to comment on the post and that you’re tired of hearing about this topic.

Why even comment?

Why continue the dialogue?

Do you have a purpose in being here?

Do your words have any relevance and deep meaning?

And if you don’t wish to hear others opinions or replies, what satisfaction or joy would you get from hearing the echo of your own voice?
Northwest · M
I think she should appear, and answer questions. She's gone through the painful process of deciding to go through with the accusation. Her testimony, under oath, and his responses, under oath, could prove useful in a future impeachment hearing, as it's all under oath.

We know the President and the Senate are not going to request an investigation, but this thing has a life of its own, even post confirmation.
bonviveur · F
@jackjjackson The Anita Hill-Clarence Thomas investigation only took three days.

The committee keeping to their commitment of fair and balanced review and consideration of this nomination announces Friday/tomorrow the five business day (one full week) delay of confirmation hearing with the investigative report being due to the committee for review Monday, October 1st for review and consideration. On that date, the committee can move forward with the hearing and vote.

During this time, all other activity of government and elected officials will be “business as usual.”

It really isn’t that difficult and doesn’t take a lot of effort to do the right thing.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
How would you feel if the investigation which at least part of the committee staff began last week continues and the committee continues to hear testimony from other witnesses and between now and then Dr Ford decides whether or not to testify and may up up until the report is completed and reviewed, all other witnesses have testified. If Dr Ford doesn’t appear to testify by then the committee votes. Sounds fair?@bonviveur
Northwest · M
@bonviveur [quote]However, I have a general feeling and sense that we’re starting to see the scales tip back in a direction towards truth, facts and due process. It just can’t come fast enough.[/quote]

I admire your optimism :-)

I'm a bit more pessimistic. If the truth and country is all that matters, the Supreme Court would not have been a prime campaign issue. Here's what the President tweeted:

[quote]The Supreme Court is one of the main reasons I got elected President. I hope Republican Voters, and others, are watching, and studying, the Democrats Playbook[/quote]

Dubya Bush, was elected thanks to a political court.

As to the can't come fast enough, I completely agree.
Sighs.

I agree with you that testifying will be a nightmare for her, and for everyone,
but I'll be astounded if the Republicans don't move forward with or without her testimony, even if they dilly dally around a bit first and milk the obstructionist democrat thing for awhile longer.

I'd love it, not just because of Kavanaugh, but because it would be a sign that they're looking past midterms, but I just can't see it happening with this leadership.
bonviveur · F
@MistyCee It will wind up disgracing so many people, further damaging Ford, Kavanaugh and giving these people and our process the legacy that of a good old American reality tv show. Intimidation, not investigative, tactics will be utilized. Statements and testimony will be mischaracterized, misunderstood and the door will be wide open for hours upon hours of debate as to what she had to drink that night, what she wore, what she did to put herself in that position to be violated, what didn't do to help protect herself, whether her memory is accurate, whether she's an upstanding citizen, whether she's a democrat or a republican, and more.

On a separate note, I don't like that she didn't come forward when he was named by Trump as the pick. I don't like that she waited until last week.

But WHEN EXACTLY is it EVER THE RIGHT TIME to come forward?

Don't say anything when it happens. He'll be embarrassed. She'll be embarrassed. It could lead to his suspension from school.

Don't tell later, he could be charged as an adult and not have a chance at higher education and securing his college, master's or law degree.

Don't tell much later, it could get him disbarred.

Don't tell even later, it could cause him not to be named partner at the firm.

Don't tell much, much later, it could cause him to not be approved for judgeship.

Don't tell much, much, much later, it could cause him to not be considered for nomination to the US Supreme Court.

Don't tell way too late (like now), because it will cause him to not be confirmed to the US Supreme Court.


While over the weeks, months, years she lives with this... deals with it... hides it or maybe even goes to therapy over it... but she gets to see his rise to levels so highly regarded that it finally sickens her to think that he caused this kind of personal damage to her that it's time, finally, time for her to say something.

Or... she's just making this all up for notoreity, fame, greater success and certainly greater appointments in the field of education and more professional accolades just as she planned! Not. What person, woman or man, would EVER want to place himself/herself is such a negative live, knowing full well that personally his/her life will NEVER be the same and you get to carry around the tag for the rest of your life as "the one" that raised eyebrows and caused such a stir for a US Supreme Court nominee.

It takes logic to know what the right thing to is and how this should unfold. But we will make a greater mess and drama out of this for the sake of party lines, not for the sake of the people involved and how much it will hurt them and how we operate and are perceived as a country.


Just saying...
*and now off my soapbox*
lorne13 · 61-69, M
This is true, if she testifies in that hearing it will just give her ebemies a chance to ridicule her
let's all form a lynch mob and hang everyone without a trial or credible evidence. who cares if someone is actually charged with anything.
@DuchessOfMapleSyrup Then you should really hate how the accuser is receiving [b]literal[/b] death threats for daring to come forward.
@bijouxbroussard death threats are despicable . the thing cowards do
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
Unfortunately Sen Feinstein made this a political issue instead of handling it as a legal issue. By withholding the letter for several months, not turning it over to the democrats on the committee or to legal authorities she made it a political football.
Northwest · M
@GJOFJ3 [quote] By withholding the letter for several months[/quote]

The letter was written by Dr. Ford, on July 30th, then it made its way to Sen. Feinstein. How did you come up with several months?
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Northwest · M
@LvChris Trying to keep it simple :-) Yes, it's amazing, how they were able to, overnight, find 65 women Kavanaugh did not rape, and get them all to sign a letter attesting to that, even though they had no clue the letter existed, and they got totally blindsided :-)
eli1601 · 70-79, M
bonviveur · F
@eli1601 Are you sure you want to do that? The vote would be "no."
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@bonviveur At least we'll know which Republicans have no backbone.
katielass · F
Crazy women do not dictate who conducts investigations and of what. The process will move forward and you left wing loons can like it or not, we don't care. Btw, she's lying.
bonviveur · F
@katielass

It will wind up disgracing so many people, further damaging Ford, Kavanaugh and giving these people and our process the legacy that of a good old American reality tv show. Intimidation, not investigative, tactics will be utilized. Statements and testimony will be mischaracterized, misunderstood and the door will be wide open for hours upon hours of debate as to what she had to drink that night, what she wore, what she did to put herself in that position to be violated, what didn't do to help protect herself, whether her memory is accurate, whether she's an upstanding citizen, whether she's a democrat or a republican, and more.

On a separate note, I don't like that she didn't come forward when he was named by Trump as the pick. I don't like that she waited until last week.

But WHEN EXACTLY is it EVER THE RIGHT TIME to come forward?

Don't say anything when it happens. He'll be embarrassed. She'll be embarrassed. It could lead to his suspension from school.

Don't tell later, he could be charged as an adult and not have a chance at higher education and securing his college, master's or law degree.

Don't tell much later, it could get him disbarred.

Don't tell even later, it could cause him not to be named partner at the firm.

Don't tell much, much later, it could cause him to not be approved for judgeship.

Don't tell much, much, much later, it could cause him to not be considered for nomination to the US Supreme Court.

Don't tell way too late (like now), because it will cause him to not be confirmed to the US Supreme Court.


While over the weeks, months, years she lives with this... deals with it... hides it or maybe even goes to therapy over it... but she gets to see his rise to levels so highly regarded that it finally sickens her to think that he caused this kind of personal damage to her that it's time, finally, time for her to say something.

Or... she's just making this all up for notoreity, fame, greater success and certainly greater appointments in the field of education and more professional accolades just as she planned! Not. What person, woman or man, would EVER want to place himself/herself is such a negative live, knowing full well that personally his/her life will NEVER be the same and you get to carry around the tag for the rest of your life as "the one" that raised eyebrows and caused such a stir for a US Supreme Court nominee.

It takes logic to know what the right thing to is and how this should unfold. But we will make a greater mess and drama out of this for the sake of party lines, not for the sake of the people involved and how much it will hurt them and how we operate and are perceived as a country.
katielass · F
You're exactly right, she has no obligation to tell her "story". She can testify under oath on Monday or not, her choice. If she chooses not to testify under oath on Monday, fine, the process will move forward ad the vote will be taken. This histrionic woman needs to be taught that she is not going to hold the country hostage because she has fantasies of being overpowered by a male.
bonviveur · F
@katielass How/why do call her histrionic?

She needs to be taught a lesson?

Fantasies for being overpowered by a male?

Just assume for a moment, what she’s said is true. When does a woman speak up about such a situation?

Do you believe any woman speaking publicly about being a victim to sexual aggression or rape should be met with such negative discourse?
Sinnerwithaheart · 56-60, F
So tired of hearing about this.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Sinnerwithaheart Nobody asked for yours either - but neither you nor anyone else needs permission. This is how forums work, welcome to the Internet.
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Sinnerwithaheart · 56-60, F
@QuixoticSoul I know this.
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jackjjackson · 61-69, M
What do you think should happen next?

 
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