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Voting Pro Trump is an act of Racism.

Lets call it what it is people. An act of inhumanity to your neighbour.
He may or not be racist himself. Although as a narcissist and borderline sociopath he is certainly not someone I want living in my area. But lets not dwell on him. Lets talk about his voters. The kind of hate that supports building walls, allows religious and racial prejudice and doesn't stand for the values of tolerance and unity in adversity that actually DID make America great is short sighted, self centred and racist. Just look at what each and every Trump supporter voted for.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/donald-trump-rejects-hurricane-maria-death-toll-in-puerto-rico/news-story/024cbbc8e965ba1acd18f33020fd65e0
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/09/13/trump-really-hates-apologizing-for-misogyny-and-racism-new-reporting-explains-why/?utm_term=.3cf112633a0b
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-racist-meme/
Every single Trump supporter is a racist. There is just no way out of that.
fazer1k · 56-60, M
Those who support Trump certainly seem willing to turn a blind eye to racism, even if they aren't actively racist themselves.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
But they are.. That's my point. He has political reasons for separating out those who look different and point at them . To divide the community and gain advantage. But each and every person who votes for him has no such excuse. They do it out of bigotry, ignorance and hate.@fazer1k
Sighs.

If we have to take Trump's bait and attack each other, can we at least make say that, after all this time, anyone that [i]continues[/i] to vote for him or support him is _____.

I'm as guilty of anyone else about doing it, but if we're going to step into the muck of hating our neighbors and calling them names, shouldn't we at least be careful about it and pick our spots?

Slightly more seriously, DJT's appeal to tribalism is not his only fault, and I'd be perfectly happy if racists voted against his enablers and collaborators in November for any reason, whether its changing their minds on his dabbling with race issues, thinking his tariff stuff is wrong, that his tax cuts didn't help them, that he's tweeting about dead brown skinned people in Puerto Rico instead of focusing on white people in trouble in North Carolina, that he's compromised by Russia, that he can't manage his staff, or just because he has bad hair and taste in women.

Personally, I think that DJT is dangerous to the entire country, including racists, and on the off chance that some might not be single issue voters, what's the purpose in making it all about that one issue.

I know, it may seem unprincipled, and I totally get how you feel, but there's a lot more wrong with Trump than racism, and given how much there is, it just seems like we'd be better off pointing all of those things out and not raging about how anyone who doesn't see one problem, or even agrees with him about it, is bad.

Rant over.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Whats in a name? Communism doesn't exist any more as a political reality. Its My Oligarchy V Your Oligarchy. Whether its Russian, Chinese or American. And the Chinese are by far the best organised and resourced.. But that's a different question.@MistyCee
@whowasthatmaskedman lol, I guess it is better to have said that politics make strange bedfellows.


The point I was trying to make, I guess, is, that the enemy of your enemy doesn't really have to be your closest friend.

But this is not a moral issue, so I'll shut up.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
I am actually on your side in that. Politics is a crappy game at the best of times. But played at its best it is about delivering the greatest good for the greatest number. I will certainly grant that at the time, if you didn't look too closely, Trump seemed worth the risk. Now you got him home and took the wrapper off.....Not so much.@MistyCee
daisymay · 51-55, T
He is racist as fuck. The Central Park 5, being SUCCESSFULLY sued for discrimination, etc.
@daisymay I remember that. He took out a full page ad saying they should be [b]lynched[/b]...then when DNA [b]proved[/b] conclusively that they hadn’t been involved, suggested they remain in prison. “If they didn’t do this, they did something else,” he was quoted as saying at the time.
Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F
Couldn't agree more.. to vote for him after seeing his ineptitude would be insane not to mention inhuman.
And you are completely correct that what the outside respected and made America great was the humanity, the respect for children, for fellow human beings, that people were expected to be treated reasonably.
Trump with supporter and Hall of Famer Ray Lewis...... yeah, that Racist Trump. LOL
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
I respectfully disagree. Voting Pro Trump and supporting him publicly is supporting racism and saying it is acceptable. That applies to every person who voted for him. Americans had the option of not voting, as dislike for Hillary showed, they are capable of staying away in protest. Standing up for him and voting for him is an act of will and an act of express racism.@HerKing
HerKing · 61-69, M
@SheCallsMeCrushDaddy [quote]so, Trump has the support of the KKK and 8 percent of black voters. I'd say he has a very wide spectrum of supporters.[/quote]

Maybe he has, but that doesn't alter that he's a racist. In 1933 an Austrian corporal in Germany was openly ridiculed by those who weren't unemployed (His champions), who were educated and open minded. In 1936 that same individual had such a following that those hitherto sceptics had changed completely and were turning in their neighbours who they'd known for years because they were Jewish (One of the objects of blame).

In 1939, WW2 broke out.
@SheCallsMeCrushDaddy Not really. He got 57% of the white vote, of that mostly white men like himself, 67% non-college educated whites and as stated, 8% of blacks, 29% Latinos, 18% Asians. And while Trump won fewer actual votes, he won them in the swing states. Remember when he said the electoral college was “a disaster”—until it helped him win ? It’s funny that it [b]still[/b] bothers him that he didn’t win the popular vote—why should he care at this stage ?
gol979 · 41-45, M
Mate that's is some seriously incendiary language. No doubt he plays the "other" card but to label all trump supporters racist is flat out wrong.
You don't take into account the consistent and prolonged propaganda (msm), the history of supposed liberals (Obama, Clinton etc) usurping that word, the previous real life experience of the public, especially economically, why wouldn't people vote for a change? From my point of view its no different but it was framed that way. Also, Clinton is also a terrible alternative.
While there's an element of white supremacy, to label all trump supporters racist is just an analysis with zero context and no sense of recent history
xixgun · M
@whowasthatmaskedman And you're a self important dullard in desperate need of a backhanding off your high horse.
Fernie · F
@xixgun then you are a filthy racist...you are as sick and dangerous as trump. I WILL continue to scream and resist him and people like you and ANYONE who defends and supports that deranged vile ignorant pig. You all disgust me
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@xixgun Before accepting criticism, I always make a point of checking the quality of the critic. Your thoughts have been discarded accordingly. I can think of no more appropriate person to support Trump than you.
Agreed. And he’s certainly a racist. He’s proven it several times over the last few decades in word and deed. The white supremacist groups would not support him so completely if [b]they[/b] didn’t realise the feelings were mutual.
So even Diamond and Silk are racist? Allen B West? Candace Owens?
daisymay · 51-55, T
@Harley4Life They certainly support a racist. You should ask them about their feelings on the subject.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Yes.. Every person who speaks out in favour of his speaks out in favour of Racism. You see. I make no distinction regarding the origins of a person. I look simply at what they stand for. And these people stand for Racism.@Harley4Life
@Harley4Life One does [b]not[/b] have to be white to support white supremacy. But their reasons are their own.
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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@pagandad Desperate liberals! My favorite.

Sigh thanks a lot, now I’m craving pizza.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Oh! You really were serious? In that case, you are a racist. But I am sure you don't see it. Be happy with your gun, your Nascar and your red cap.@pagandad
HerKing · 61-69, M
@pagandad[quote]Just look at how these desperate liberals attack me. [/quote]



[quote] as well as Democrat trolls, probably paid by a Soros funded organization, [/quote]

[quote]When their crimes are revealed, the TRUE Russian meddling, the pedophilia and satanic child murder, the treason against the United States Constitution, [/quote]


Oh irony!!! 🤣
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@pagandad You are not even on the right continent..
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Fernie · F
I'm focused on this demon from hell...his base will go when HE goes...that needs to happen because there will always be dimwits out there who'll vote for him/it so get rid of the disease
Mysti · 51-55, F
Your entitled to your opinion but it means nothing to me. Your not even American. So fucking tired of people using the word "racist". It is so overused now, it's become the equivalent of the word "asshole".
@Mysti But racism still exists, alas. And I [b]am[/b] an American, and have seen a lot of people say and do things in Trump's name that perhaps they wouldn't have as openly before.
Mysti · 51-55, F
And that's your opinion. I just don't happen to agree.
@Mysti You don't agree with [b]my[/b] experiences. Lol, that sounds typical. And yes, that's why the division exists.
RemovedUsername811342 · 36-40, F
do you think he gets reelected?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Lets see what the mid terms say.. One thing I think we can all agree on is that Trump is the exception to the rules.@QuixoticSoul
ArnoldJRimmer · 56-60, M
@whowasthatmaskedman i should know better than to get involved in any of these conversations but you are mistaken.
Gerrymandering has nothing to do with presidential elections.
The electoral college is the means by which the president is elected. Its purpose is to prevent high population states from completely overwhelming less populous states input into the process.
Gerrymandering only affects representative districts on various levels.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Okay.. Semantics from us both. But in this case the imbalance that creates a gerrymander comes between the number of electoral college votes and the actual population of the state. Plus the fact that some states apply their college votes proportionally, where some do a winner take all system. I oversimplified on the basis that its a pretty odd set up and not widely used anywhere else.@ArnoldJRimmer
MrWarfare94 · 26-30, M
This post just shows how one sided you are. People like you are the ones that can't have a constructive conversation about anything that involves politics. Cause all you do is blame blame blame everything on the other side and anything on people who vote for a certain person or group. You are just as bad as all those ultra republican talk show host listeners.
Fernie · F
@MrWarfare94 WHAT? The man is dangerous and needs to be stopped. There is only one side that is rational and that side is GET RID OF THIS PIG!!!!!! and anyone who defends or supports him should be tossed out of the country...let the immigrants stay and get rid of the morons running things and the maniacs who vote for him. How can anyone with a semblance of a brain argue with that? Especially after what we have seen and heard this past year...how heinous he is...evil...souless...traitor...get a grip kiddo
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@MrWarfare94 I disagree. Happy yo debate any issue you wish. But in this case the issue is Racism. I would like to think that is this day and age that is a showstopper issue. One that draws a line and says "No Further!" To me, supporting a man who openly supports racist acts IS an act of ACCEPTING his acts. So his supporters are racists. Feel free to disagree. But please come back with reasons to support your case.
Fernie · F
@whowasthatmaskedman ha!! "But please come back with reasons to support your case." the reasons, the true facts just come straight out of his disgusting mouth, they are right in front of you. You CHOOSE to not see and hear the truth so nothing I say will matter. I'm done with you. Don't bother babbling on...I won't be reading it...had this asinine conversation too many times
eli1601 · 70-79, M
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
That's Okay Boris.. It seems Russians are cool😉@eli1601
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@whowasthatmaskedman Some of us are, yes.

 
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