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Westminster ignores the Scottish Parliament (what a shock!馃檮)

About a month ago I posted about the Scottish parliament voting overwhelmingly against accepting the EU withdrawal bill in its current form as it has a clause in it that will allow Westminster to take certain devolved powers back. Today the bill was passed in Westminster with the power grab clause still in it. They spent a massive 15 minutes talking about Scotland. The Labour party who's Scottish branch had voted against it in the Scottish Parliament and who's leader even called the clause a power grab decided to abstain on the vote (except Dennis Skinner who sticks to his principles). Even the most bitter unionist liar Gordon Brown has condemned it and said they are breaking up the union. I'm furious but at the same time can't help but laugh as I look forward to the newsnight specials and whatever other tv shows ask how did we lose Scotland? After deception upon deception. After taking and taking. How did we push Scotland to leaving the union?

Just seen this and thought I might add it on. The SNP's Westminster leader Ian Blackford asked the speaker what they could possibly do in the House of Commons to show how hated this will be in Scotland. After this a Tory MP can be heard shouting "suicide". What a lovely attitude.
Burnley12341-45, M
Thanks for sharing.

Constitutionally the UK Parliament is sovereign over Scotland and this bill was never going to pass. I am in favour of more devolved power though on a big national issue like this won't pass, the country has to decide. You will see it as evidence that Scotland should be independent and I will come back to that point.

As a separate issue, both main UK parties have a position on the EU which is untenable. I admit this as a branch campaign's officer for the Labour Party.

Brexit, as imagined for all those who voted for it, is untenable but Brexiteers either don't know that yet or won't admit to it. The politicians (aside from a few cranks like Mogg) know this and are fudging the issue because they don't wanna tell the public what the public don't wanna hear and a gaming for short-term advantage with each other.

May and Davis know it is BS and want a way out but are prisoners to the Brexiteers and their voters. Boris and Gove know Brexit is BS but are pretending to be true believers for their own career. They are happy to gaslight those making decisions and happy to lie.

Corbyn and McDonnel don't want Brexit but accept it has to happen. They don't like the EU, think Brexit is worse but know they can stop it. They are fudging things because a third of Labour voters are Brexiteers and because most Labour MPs are in Brexit constituencies. They don't have the strength to go against their MPs if they wanted to.

The can can only be kicked down the road for so long though. When (not if) the final deal is crap, everyone will be pissed off. The right will blame May for selling out (though she had no power over the EU) and Liberals will blame her for not stopping Brexit.

I think Labour needs to take a more pro soft-Brexit line. They will be blamed whatever they do and they can't stop Brexit but they need to fight for the best result, which is a 1-0 defeat and the Norway model.

I also think Scottish Nationalism cannot deliver what it promises because I think the economics also do not stack up. In a globalised world, you need bigger and stronger democratic bodies to resist the forces of capital. Smaller bodies get eaten up as Greek Syriza salad.
thatscottishguy26-30, M
Don't worry you often are馃槣.
Burnley12341-45, M
@thatscottishguy You agree with me on all things non-Scottish. 馃檮
thatscottishguy26-30, M
Not all.
MartinII70-79, M
Please leave as soon as possible!
Burnley12341-45, M
@MartinII Do Troy voters really wanna sing God Save the Queen on behalf of rUK?
MartinII70-79, M
@thatscottishguy I think the chances of that happening are vanishingly small!
MartinII70-79, M
@Burnley123 I鈥檓 afraid I don鈥檛 understand that comment. Sorry.

 
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