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The governor of California has created a permanent law rationing indoor water use for all residents to 55 gallons a day.

By 2030 that amount will drop to 50 gallons a day for indoor use. That amount is per person in the household per day.

Mothers are wondering how they will do laundry. Could you live with only using 55 gallons of water a day, including dishwashing, laundry, showers, bathing pets, and so on?
SW-User
@SimplyTracie like I said wasteful. We don't use half that amount in UK, possibly rest of EU too.
MethDozer · M
@AcidBurn But it actually taste good and makes cheese.
@MethDozer I do love cheese!
MethDozer · M
@AcidBurn Me too.😋
DownTheStreet · 51-55, M
Got to love that totalitarianism
wetncthru · F
@DownTheStreet Thank you my great nephew. Signed: Uncle Joe.
Sustainability... humans will never understand it..
@wetncthru I was liking the highballs joke
4meAndyou · F
@wetncthru They will probably monitor water meters. They plan to fine abusers up to $1000.00, and they plan to tax $12.00 a year per person for water, and business water fines and taxes will be a lot higher.
wetncthru · F
@4meAndyou Ah, tax ... that magic voter soothing word.
jackson55 · M
I wonder if Southern California with all of their pools and golf courses will adhere to that law?
katielass · F
@jackson55 Or if the special people get a pass?
ScrewThisImDone · 26-30, F
@jackson55 Maybe that drought wouldn't be as bad if they cut down on that junk...
jackson55 · M
[@ It seems that way. Take No California's water to keep So Cal alive. The beautiful people of San Fracisco and LA call the shots.
jackson55 · M
When California has 20 million people in it there was enough water most of the time. Now that it has 40 million they have a issue. There's been nothing done about the water issue, nothing. San Diego has a desalination unit to water lawns and golf courses. It cost 1 billion. But yet Jerry would rather spend 3 billion on his train to nowhere rather than do something about the water.
Firespirit · 26-30, M
Rip commie-fornia
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
WATER IN CALIFORNIA: WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN;
First there will be ordinances introduced banning certain outdoor water use, using mains water. Some people will install tanks to receive private water trucks and put up signs to inform others they are not breaking the law by watering a lawn or filling a pool.
This will be reinforced by increasing charges for metered water . And at the same time desalination plants will be built to increase the water supply. People will adapt , car washes will thrive and recycle their own water and a market balance point will be reached where people will conserve to save money and pay for what they are will to use, either through carted water, or drilling a bore.
This is not the first place this has happened.. Nor will it be the last. Fresh water is in short supply the world over. This is just the first time Americans have noticed it.
@whowasthatmaskedman there’s a billion dollar desall plant in Sydney that’s too expensive to run and maintain... don’t go down that path
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
What the good Gentleman means is that so far they have not needed the desal plant enough to warrant its cost, due to some good rainfall years.. That wont last.@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout
not to mention the repair bill last time a storm went thru the place..
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
I think my son uses that in one shower :(
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
@4meAndyou No no no.....it’s time for him to move out...🚛
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
@Keepitsimple Send him to the Navy, showering is very efficient in the Navy. Ships have limited ability to supply water at sea.
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
@Xuan12 This particular son wouldn’t last an hour in the navy...Lol
I think I read somewhere that almonds and alfalfa combined use 25% of california's water. That's nuts! No pun intended.
Lolco · 36-40, M
@AcidBurn 😅😅😂
Heartlander · 80-89, M
My grandparents in their early lives lived off the grid and ran a 20,000 acre farm. City water, gas, electricity and sewer eventually came to them, but they still retained huge outdoor cisterns for most of their water needs. Water from the roof drained into the cisterns and was used for everything but drinking and cooking water, and the upstairs bathroom. To render an estimate, the cisterns probably held 25,000 to 50,000 gallons.

Long droughts would run them low and they knew when to start being extra conservative. They kept an out-house functional for when things got seriously desperate.

But they already knew how to be self sufficient and city water was a luxury. For us city slickers already living on 100 to 200+ gallons a day, it's gonna be a bit of a transition.

Turn it into a challenge and an adventure :)
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@4meAndyou Haaa ... yes. I think it's where that "[i][b]don't throw the baby away with the bath water[/b][/i]" originated.

I remember the old wringer washing machines. Clothes washing and drying were outdoor activities and as I recall, the soap of choice for practically everything was octagon


It will be interesting to see how California handles this. The heartlands has it's own history with the dust-bowl years and all my in-the-know friends keep warning about the depleting aquifers with doomsday intensity.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Domestic rain water collection tanks are part of new housing developments where I am, for all out door uses. The tanks are not huge. But it makes a lot of difference.@Heartlander
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@whowasthatmaskedman Great. We have one. Or had one. We're presently reworking for a larger and more sophisticated one. The 55 gallon tank we had was fed by just a small part of the roof and it filled up within minutes.

Quit a few cities also have started adding them to help water the midtown greenery. Millions of gallons run off from elevated parking lots that can easily be tanked and drip-fed to mid-city greenery.
TexChik · F
What’s left of California might just be ready to turn Red!
jackson55 · M
[@ It's basically one party rule there. Nothing will change until the state goes compleatly broke.
katielass · F
@jackson55 Exactly. With numerous cities in bankruptcy or on the verge of it, you wonder how long it will take the special people to realize it's almost just them and illegal aliens.
yeronlyman · 51-55, M
If it’s the water cliff it won’t be a matter of can you live with a limited supply, but how to live with a limited supply

We will be recycling our water locally in houses... 😳
4meAndyou · F
@whowasthatmaskedman Yes, the "brick trick" is widely known...but why use any potable water to flush?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
True.. But if the grey water needs to be pumped uphill to the cistern, this opens different issues.. @4meAndyou
4meAndyou · F
@whowasthatmaskedman I know it's not undo-able, though. My former house used to be on a hill, and all of our water was pumped uphill.
SW-User
What about watering your garden? Wouldn't that use far more water than what's used inside?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Global warming effects are different wherever you go.. But in general that can be described of a more extreme version of what you have. Another little myth that has recently been shot in the foot is that higher CO2 and higher rainfall equals more crops.. Its true up to a point, but the results on rice show the crop still only has the same overall nutrient content. Its just slightly greater tonnage and lower per ton. @SW-User
4meAndyou · F
@whowasthatmaskedman I remember you from EP! Aussie, financial wizard...loves sci fi! Nice to see you again!
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Bows: Thank you for the great Publicity😊@4meAndyou
Peaches · F
I don't know?🤔I'm glad I left California when I did. They are pouring into Oregon like you wouldn't believe!😰Years ago there was a song about the earth quakes and it being destroyed, people were actually waiting for that to happen. There has been a water shortage there off and on since the 70's. Oh, I found that song for ya!💞🎶[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2ZXco32IRU]
This is why I want to move
wetncthru · F
@Harley4Life To Bangladesh? = plenty of water there during the monsoon season.
@wetncthru California just sucks
Lolco · 36-40, M
Agree , but I’m sure it is not being done In a evil way, water crisis has always been a problem on that side .... either pay the fine that comes with over consumption or move to a place like Nyc.... here was have an amazing water system & none of our reserves have ever needed to come in effect ..
ozgirl512 · 26-30, F
Its those almond gives that are the problem
wetncthru · F
@MethDozer *Gasp* Your social presumption might perhaps be forward ... but accurate.
MethDozer · M
@wetncthru 😝
wetncthru · F
A typical washing machine uses 25+ gallons per load ... a shower 7-15

A swimming pool uses thousands of gallons
4meAndyou · F
@questionWeaver I checked the washing machine stats...it appears that a washing machine uses 14 gallons. I suppose it depends on the size of the washing machine and the wash setting you use. I think that they will have to develop shower heads with shut offs, so that people can wet their body, soap, and rinse without the water running the entire time.
@4meAndyou 14 gallons TWICE ... rinse cycle
@4meAndyou I wonder if people will drill water wells ... my well produces 37,500 gallons a day ... 25gpm
kate21 · 26-30, F
I heard Cape Town, South Africa is down to 3 liters a day per person, so things could be worse.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Yes. No rainfall plus no forward planning. That's going to get nasty unless the weather really breaks for them.@kate21
@kate21 They're also trying to downplay the problem so it doesn't disrupt tourism. They need extra water being consumed by people that don't know any better.
wetncthru · F
We will be waiting for a Second Coming to turn all that Californian wine into water.
4meAndyou · F
@wetncthru Yes, and yet, we should all remember....that Jesus saves. (Water?) LOL!!!
wetncthru · F
@4meAndyou I heard 0000 was a good vintage.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
How would anyone know how much is being used indoors versus outdoors?
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@4meAndyou That’s a lot of expense, two meters, a holding tank for gray water, new plumbing, anything else? At any rate, 55 gallons/person is a lot of water. I’m sure that isn’t asking too much.
4meAndyou · F
@SimplyTracie I was just mentioning to a friend of mine, it is 7 gallons every time you flush the toilet. An 8 minute shower uses almost 17 gallons, one load of laundry uses 14 gallons and you still have to wash dishes, brush your teeth, wash your hands, have water for cooking, and water to drink....and I haven't figured out how much water that would use.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@4meAndyou If think a family of four using 220 gal/day is plenty enough for your daily needs. And you can still wash your car and water your lawn without impacting that number.

I use more water to shower so someone will have to cut back some. 😝
katielass · F
That includes the water used in flushing toilets, assuming californians do that but they might not.
No idea.But 55 gallons sounds a lot to me!
4meAndyou · F
@TheSirfurryanimalWales Hi Furry! Nice to see you again! Actually, I would really have to watch myself if I only had 55 gallons a day. One load of wash uses 14 gallons and you would use 17-18 gallons of water for an 8 minute shower. (2 gallons of water are used every minute in the shower). One flush of the toilet can use up to 7 gallons of water and two bricks in the cistern only saves one gallon. If I flush the toilet three times a day, I am already up to 50 gallons (with bricks), and I still have to drink, wash my hands, and have water for cooking and washing dishes.
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@4meAndyou Hello.I am on many places on the web!Still sounds a lot to me.
4meAndyou · F
@TheSirfurryanimalWales I figure that for me, one load of laundry, one shower, three toilet flushes and I am out...LOL!!!
Rural California has the water ... time they learned to "negotiate" (sends Trump to teach them)
wetncthru · F
50/55 Gallons makes many ice cubes.
Lolco · 36-40, M
wetncthru · F
@Lolco As long as there is enough water for the ice for the gin and tonics ... no worries.
katielass · F
Most people would be surprised just how little water that is.
4meAndyou · F
@katielass I don't know for sure. Lots of things going on there.
katielass · F
@4meAndyou A couple years ago there was a report about people running out of water and the story was that the state was diverting it to some sanctuary area for....it wasn't a izard, I believe it was a bird. And since birds can't fly.......lol
4meAndyou · F
@katielass https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/04/150403-smelt-california-bay-delta-extinction-endangered-species-drought-fish/
SW-User
Water soon will be the new gold or oil
wetncthru · F
@SW-User Kerching!
TexChik · F
Hahahaha! And Rome burns !
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
Not sure I understand the mother angle here. You get 55 gallons per kid, too.
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
@QuixoticSoul Indeed, it's also openly stated that counties which practice water recycling and conservation already will have a bit more leeway.
4meAndyou · F
@QuixoticSoul You will have to ask the news stations about that.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@SimplyTracie [quote] That amount is per person in the household per day. Mothers are wondering how they will do laundry.[/quote]No, it's per-person - not surprising, since penalizing families like that would cause an uproar.

It's just an old fashioned attempt to tug at the heartstrings.
Xuan12 · 31-35, M
It's doable. Probably I the future such a regulation will be lifted when the water infrastructure becomes more robust.
Xena1234 · 51-55, F
Wow, that is just crazy. I am so glad I no longer have city water, no bill, etc
4meAndyou · F
There are going to be big fines for violations.
SW-User
Thats a sht load of water! You guys are wasteful as fk!
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@SW-User An average shower uses 30 gallons.
4meAndyou · F
@SimplyTracie Yes. They had a mother on the air stating that she has several children, and asking how she is supposed to do all their laundry.
well..probably needs to happen tbf. thats life.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Gh0s1 Climate change is a bitch.
Wishingwellguy · 46-50, M
That’s a lot of water for one individual per day ! , if you wash up or use the dishwasher for a family it’s the same amount , the same with laundry surely ?
Heartlander · 80-89, M
How will they know if you got the water from the inside faucet or the outside one?
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Heartlander You mean, if you dig your own well?
jackson55 · M
Watch the movie Chinatown with Jack Nickolson. It's all about the water.
MethDozer · M
I could and probably do, but regardless.

On the other side of the coin, that's what happens when your state grows a bunch of cities and farms in a desert and drains it's very limited water sources overpopulating a desert that doesn't have enough water to support the population.
MethDozer · M
@QuixoticSoul It's a big part of it, yet it is far from an anemic part of the state economy. Nor is the population of say LA sustainable on it's own on terms of water. But yeah, the misguided agricultural practices are a huge part of it. Considering it is a big part of Southern California, it IS unsustainable. Sustainable by definition meaning sustaining the current condition.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@MethDozer Agriculture uses 80% of our available water, and generates about 2% of the gdp. And yeah, you can futz around a bit with those numbers, but still - things are way the fuck out of balance.
MethDozer · M
@QuixoticSoul Completely out of balance.

 
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