Only logged in members can reply and interact with the post.
Join SimilarWorlds for FREE »

Does the left hate free speech?

I say no and in response, I'm posting two videos on the subject by a transgender leftist Youtube comedian. It contains explicit material and says some mean things about the alt-right as well as a cutting take-down on the contradictions of classical liberals on this subject. Because you all agree with free speech, you'll watch the videos and address the points they raise, without resorting to insults or ad-hominems. Or not.

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGTDhutW_us&t=2s]

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBUuBd5VRbY]

Follow ContraPoints because she deserves a bigger following.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M Best Comment
ContraPoints is so awesome. Ironically you know right wingers flagged these videos to have it removed it?

So much for the free speech right.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@basilfawlty89 Yeah some Nazis reported her videos lol because they had hurt feelings. Imagine that. She renamed the video that got taken down and posted it back up, it hasn't been taken down since.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Predictably, right-wing people have answered this by ignoring the points in the videos. Maybe the object to transgender leftist opinions and are trying to shut down debate. 😂

Watch the videos guys and come up with an argument on the points, then I'll respond.
This comment is hidden. Show Comment
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@LvChris lol
SW-User
Some anti-speech advocates are of the left. Some are of the right. We didn't expect it from the left, but there is an odd, quasi Maoist element to some of their rhetoric.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@basilfawlty89 Speaking of:

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwio5BeCPFI]

[quote]"I'm Tatiana Tankikova. I'm here to defend Stalin."[/quote]

😂

Unfortunately, there are still a few tankies on the left, though fortunately, their influence is now minimal.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@SW-User Basically 'tankie' is an insult term on the left:

[quote]The epithet has stuck because tankies also supported "sending the tanks in" in cases such as Czechoslovakia 1968, Afghanistan 1979, Bosnia and Kosovo/a (in the case of the Serbian state), and so on (whereas the rest of the communist movement has gravitated towards anti-militarism).[/quote]
SW-User
@Burnley123 It seems there will always be a certain percentage of people who support a horrible cause. That doesn't explain why 2/5 Americans support Trump, though. 2/5 Americans don't support American ideals...wow.
Freedom of speech was meant to support the oppressed, not to bully and oppress those that need support.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@InOtterWords And to give us the ability to protest and question our leaders without fear of government reprisal.

...yet they've literally wanted Trump to arrest people for protesting against him, deporting people who disagree with him, etc.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@InOtterWords Also if they're for free speech and the first amendment, then they would be against banning Muslims and Islam, because banning someone for having a different religion is literally violating their free speech and their right to freedom of religion, not to mention censorship.
revenant · F
Yes do not think but subject yourself or else..
revenant · F
@basilfawlty89 the left is against science...am not american so no creationist here. Genders ???? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@revenant Gender is not the same as sex. Any psychiatrist and sociologist could tell you that. The binary definition of culture is universal. Many Native Americans had three genders with twin spirits? Why do you assume your Eurocentric version is correct.

You lot say you believe in science - yet you have no idea how chromosomes work, you deny intersexed people exist when they do, you have no concept of how hormones work and listen to idiots like Jordan Petersen that think people are crustaceans.

Please.
revenant · F
@basilfawlty89 no proof. sorry I believe in chromosomes too. Intersex people are extremely rare. the twin spirit of aborigenes has been hijacked to represent something else. It is such a frikking joke and it is very very sad to see child abuse on a grand scale.
strongbow · 46-50, M
If it doesnt fit their agenda, yes they cant stand it
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@Burnley123 They won't. They lie. They don't care about free speech. They care about you agreeing with them dogmatically.

Do you know how often I've been blocked by right wingers?

Their definition of free speech is "I can say what I want, but you can't, if you disagree with me, you're against free speech".

Yet these seem assholes think you shouldn't question leaders - literally the whole point of free speech.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@basilfawlty89 I've lost count of the amount who've blocked me and that is just the ones I know about. Milo is a classic case study. He was idolised by the right and forgiven any behaviour as long as it offended liberals. When a video emerged of him talking about under-age sex, he was gone in a second.

Basically, free speech for them is the freedom to be racist or sexist. Its a crude way of putting it but that is basically it.

However, criticising them for being racist or sexist is 'shutting down free speech', even though it's not shutting them down. Predictably, none of these people will engage with the video but will simultaneously attack you and me for living in an echo chamber and shutting down debate.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@Burnley123 Milo is the most hilarious example too.

This jackass says undocumented immigrants need to be deport for the crime of crossing the border.

Yet he went to boat parties where underaged boys of around 12 were drugged and used for sex. Parties plural. He never reported it to the police and went again.

That by itself is a crime and they should revoke someone's visa. I don't see him self deporting and he did everything he could to stay in the US.

 
Post Comment