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So, let me get this straight...

Cutting taxes at the top hoping for wealth to trickle down onto the workers is good...

But raising minimum wage to induce the very effect that trickle down hopes to achieve, oh that's bad.

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smmartydude · 36-40, M

It's bad because now you will have unskilled workers (McDonald's and such) making $15 an hour, when right now people with college degrees don't make that much. So how can you have unskilled workers making the same as educated workers doing jobs they need degrees for? You can't...so their wages have to go up, too. It gets to the point where many businesses can't pay that wage so they either have to fire people or go out of business. McDonald's type jobs were never meant to support families...they were meant to give high school kids a starting point in the workplace.

Xuan12 · 31-35, M

@smmartydude Yeah, and the unsuccessful businesses get replaced by the successful ones. Capitalism.

smmartydude · 36-40, M

@Xuan12 even successful businesses can't afford to pay certain wages. Stop trying to make up fake scenarios where this actually works. Why should unskilled workers make as much as skilled workers?

Xuan12 · 31-35, M

@smmartydude Demand is one reason. Not many people have English PhD's, but how many jobs are there for that? On the other hand, working at the dump doesn't often require highly advanced skills or education, but the need for waste management workers is higher than the need for English PhD's.

And besides, like you said, they wouldn't. Skilled wages would go up too.

TheProphet · M

Raising min wage actually means less jobs.

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OggggO · 36-40, M

@TheProphet Minimum wage is not about “starting level” jobs.

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RygbiMJ12 · M

@Xuan12 the must go up to compensate and as a result demand will fall.

Graylight · 51-55, F

I recently had a guy who stocked at Walmart tell me working fast food was intended to be an entry-level job. Fact is, the days of "working at the burger joint" over the summer isn't how commerce and employment work anymore. While it seems backwards to pay low-skilled workers more, how can we navigate a country whose minimum wage is below the poverty line?

Yes, wages should go up, probably across the board up to a certain point. I know people who haven't had a cost of living increase in 8 years. At the same time, though, we need to acknowledge that this tested and common trickle-down method of commerce simply doesn't work. Somewhere in-between lays the answer.

smmartydude · 36-40, M

@Graylight Because minimum wage jobs were never meant to be jobs that support a family!!!! why don't people get that?

Xuan12 · 31-35, M

@smmartydude Well they constitute a larger and larger share of the jobs that are available. And hell, I made $18 an hour as a firefighter and it had the same buying power as 1950 minimum wage.

Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M

Because smaller businesses have difficulty paying higher wages, they both are failures

Xuan12 · 31-35, M

@Jackaloftheazuresand It would be nice if we could depend on the market to pay fair wages, but I don't think we really can. There are plenty of countries in which the going rate for labor is practically slavery.

smmartydude · 36-40, M

@Xuan12 depends what you mean by "labor".

Xuan12 · 31-35, M

@smmartydude No need to belittle the Bangladeshi chidden that sew our clothes together.

ajsk13 · 51-55, M

yes ,worked every time it has been tried ..but those cities which raised the min wage like seattle have lost jobs as no one wishes to buy an $20 grilled cheese sandwich...I'm convinced liberals have to keep their voters unemployed to keep in office

Xuan12 · 31-35, M

@ajsk13 lol

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

We should be cutting the federal income tax on the 52% of eligible taxpayers who do not pay any federal income tax.

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Xuan12 · 31-35, M

@sunsporter1649 Well, you seem to think that taxes can be cut on people who don't pay taxes. That might have something to do with it.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

Since the lower 52% of the people do not pay taxes, it seems only logical that the upper 48%, who do pay federal income taxes, would be the only folks who deserve a tax break.

Xuan12 · 31-35, M

@sunsporter1649 Then there will be even fewer taxpayers. Anyway, that's not what your original comment said. It was nonsense in fact. Hence why I speculated you might be under the influence. Also, "Lower 52% of people" sounds pretty snobbish and elitist.

OggggO · 36-40, M

Because the GOP hates evidence-based thinking: evolution, climate change, sex-ed, you name it they oppose it.

InvaderNice · 26-30, M

I don’t understand how both of those are the same.

Xuan12 · 31-35, M

@InvaderNice They're both methods that allegedly try to accomplish the same thing. Honestly a good compromise sounds like it would be to do both at once.

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