Did you know the average lifespan of National Constitutions is only about 17 years?

That's taken from all written constitutions since 1789...

Did you know that at the bright age of 241, the USA is THE OLDEST sovereign government to have ever existed?

Does it look like it's growing or dying to you?

Is it because humans are easily corruptible and power corrupts?
If so, would that suggest that attempting to assemble a large government is a fools errand- destined to ultimately fail?

The type of government doesn't seem to matter.. monarchies, democracies, republics, dictatorships, left wing, right wing...

What are we doing wrong?

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Sarahsummersrockz · 18-21, F

Does Europe not count because it's were documented before USA was a country?

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Sarahsummersrockz · 18-21, F

@CoxswainOtter An opinion is an opinion whether informed or not.

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Sarahsummersrockz · 18-21, F

@CoxswainOtter Okay. Have a good night

Tatsumi · 31-35, M

Capitalism. It was always destined for this. America has become more or less a place for large companies to milk the populace like money cows. Without concern for their wellbeing. Only profit. Truly a ferrengi society.

Hell, maybe multiculturalism, as well. The only way multiculturalism can really work, imo, is if everyone still considers themselves under the same, ultimate flag. The same banner. For instance, after 9/11. The entire country was one. "WE were attacked. WE need to do something." However, this didn't last.

But, I think with various different cultures, once the others get big enough to threaten the primary culture, well, shit just exolodes. Perhaps diversity just isn't possible, in this sense.

I dunno. I need to learn more about multiculturalism. And the history of America. If we've gone through similar stages, when we lacked diversity.

I don't think it's the fault of big government. I think it's the fault of big companies. The inherent disagreement between the right and left, I suppose. The right fears big government; the left fears big companies.

However, I am more apt to believe that the tennets of capitalism are the primary issue. The rich get richer; the poor get poorer; unsunstainable but mandatory consumption of finite resources [which wasn't so bad when we had a shitload of resources to grab--but, they run low]; attempting infinite growth; money is power, so government inevitably falls into the hands of those with the actual power. Capitalism always falls to crony capitalism, once the means of production are monopolized. Well. Maybe not always. But imevitably, imo. Just like Rome, just like Greece.

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Tatsumi · 31-35, M

@CoxswainOtter So, the government would take care of them? As far as I'm aware, a typical minarchist believes governmemt should be restricted to police, courts, and military. And not big on social spending, at least.

But. At the same time.

Would there not be people who disagreed with that? If I remember correctly, your argument against modern representative republic was based on 50% of people disagreeing with policy. Do you think most people would agree with libertarianism? Or do you want to convince most people to accept that form of governing?

I'm gonma go to sleep. It's been a good chat man. For real. A big difference from regular SW. I might wanna get back to it, tomorrow. Or, I'll keep an eye out for other posts from you. ^^

P.S. I missed your second comment while writing this. I will think on it.

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Tatsumi · 31-35, M

@CoxswainOtter Why would people be selfless under libertarianism? What would change?

Sazzio · 31-35, M

Nothing. Since nothing's perfect this will too not b perfect. Also wasn't USA discovered after 1600's? With recent discovery of Vancouver in 1880's???

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Tatsumi · 31-35, M

@CoxswainOtter Oh, ha. No. I hadn't reloaded the page yet after writing my initial comment, so I didn't see you had already answered him. So, I was just explaining to him, as you did.

Sazzio · 31-35, M

Ah yes! With Benjamin Disraeli kicking it up... Love studying history! Makes me look knowledgeable 😝 Khair Hardie established Labour party 🤓@CoxswainOtter

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Xuan12 · 31-35, M

The present power structure is too invested in the status quo. Changing the constitution, even if it would be demonstrably better for the people, would strip many powerful parties of their power, so they fight it.

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OggggO · 36-40, M

I don't know where you got your historical info, but it's extremely wrong.

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OggggO · 36-40, M

I have no idea what list you are referring to, but I would be willing to bet that the "criteria" are a bunch of post-hoc exclusions and special pleadings by the author of the piece so they can make America look special.

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