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My family met my boyfriend for the 1st time... Someone please tell me why my mom thought it was appropriate to ask my boyfriend if he's an "illegal"?

Because he's not white and he was born in another country she automatically assumed he's here illegally... He had to correct her that he's a US citizen and has been for over ten years now to which she told him, "Oh then Trump loves you". Only my mom... Can I get a new mom please?
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
Forgive your mom. Maybe she just watches to much Fox News.
reflectingmonkey · 51-55, M
@SimplyTracie accepting a reporter's opinion is passive, hearing the facts and making your own opinion is better or else it just become brainwashing propaganda, like in the states if you ask which news is better democrats will unanimously say CNN and republicans will unanimously say fox, each have their own propaganda feeding them a biased version of things.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@reflectingmonkey You’re referring to opinion journalism. I’m talking about investigative reporting. There are no opinions, just news.

Now, if you’re saying that certain networks do not report Trump saying something stupid, I would agree but it is just news. Just some are more or less picky on what is being reported. That’s all.
Example: Breitbart News Network.
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@reflectingmonkey This is a video by the Australian PBS. Are they objective enough?
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3bYkufgEZw]

They don’t share their opinion to brainwash anyone. My opinion is this:
Trump is thankful for himself.
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You can’t get a new mom, but there’s no rule that says you can’t be disgusted with the one you have. There are plenty of assholes in the world, and some of them are parents.
NaturallyPeculiar · 26-30, F
@SW-User True. As someone once told me you can't choose your biological family but you can choose to disassociate from them when they're problematic/toxic.
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@NaturallyPeculiar When I was 18, someone I respected a great deal said to me “He might be your father, but you don’t have to like the son-of-a-bitch”. That stuck with me.
I dated a couple asian guys in a span of 3 years and my grandmother thought they were all the same person.
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@Latebloomer Damn, LOL. Sorry.
I’m DED 😂 @Latebloomer
Effloresce · 26-30, F
🤦🏽‍♀️ I bet that made the rest of the evening super awkward
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
okay, he has been baptized with fire. if he still goes out with you after that, you know you have a keeper
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
My step mother starts too many sentences with "Now I'm not a racist, but..." and the rest is usually very typical for that kind of opener.
@ViciDraco or the "No offense," (but I'm going to say something offensive anyways.)
NaturallyPeculiar · 26-30, F
@ViciDraco Your step mother and my mother would get along well then...
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
@NaturallyPeculiar well, mine at least understands Trump is a con artist and not very bright.
LoL...how did your bf handle it?? The same thing happened to me in high school where the girl I was dating had a dad that was super racist to me...like sorry sir that I’m not your aryan wet dream lmao.
NaturallyPeculiar · 26-30, F
@Insomniac100 He awkwardly laughed and just basically talked to just my dad and I after that. My dad even was embarrassed and apologized to him even though he wasn't the one making those comments. Later in the car he was just like "Did that actually happened?" To be fair I warned him about my mom beforehand but I think he thought I was joking...
Your boyfriend is a good guy for handling himself like that. Keep him! @NaturallyPeculiar
NaturallyPeculiar · 26-30, F
@Insomniac100 Yeah. He's a good guy and I feel lucky that he didn't get super offended or just leave after she said that.
JoyfulSilence · 46-50, M
How deplorable!
Wow yeah...I'm sorry. I hope your boyfriend wasn't to offended by her ignorance.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Uh... what the fuck. That is so unbelievably rude.
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NaturallyPeculiar · 26-30, F
@Greenbare Didn't you call me a racist and a bigot for no reason before and now you're supporting the fact that my mom said something quite racist to a persons face? You're a very inconsistent troll...
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NaturallyPeculiar · 26-30, F
@Greenbare Shouldn't that be what I say to you? lol
Loretta78 · 46-50, F
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Fernie · F
she's what...40 something? I'm surprised she is so out of touch
NaturallyPeculiar · 26-30, F
@Fernie In her 50s
lorne13 · 61-69, M
silly mom you got there
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@NaturallyPeculiar I do not condone her behavior. I'd have been embarrassed too.

There is a bit more going on here than disgust at racism.

First, although I may be wrong, I would guess your mother was aware before the meeting that your new love is "not white." Apparently she did not immediately refuse to meet him. This indicates her racism is not radical to the point of excluding non-whites from neighborhoods, employment, society or even her loved daughter's arms.

She is ham-handed and maybe should be gagged in the company of others, but is she an icon for the evil of racism?

Yes, her question was roughly equivalent to seeing a person of another race wearing a Rolex and asking "Are you a thief, then?"

Everybody doesn't grow at the same rate. Our speech about things changes even more slowly than our thoughts about things.

Hating and despising someone for racism does not eliminate hate. It merely shifts its focus. EDUCATING someone as to why their opinions are wrong is far more effective.

How adept would we be at conversation if all at once (it seemed), many of the things "everybody knew" turned out to be wrong?

I AM making some guarded assumptions. I am assuming that in other ways, your mother is a fairly acceptable mother and human being. She is dead wrong about this. Despising her and dismissing her as a person will not change her racist ideas. Educating her lovingly very well might. When she sees your new boyfriend is much like other boys, and is just as bad or just as good, she will - we hope - begin to understand that racism is evil, dangerous, and stupid. Maybe she won't.

That is what I was going to say before I was so roundly dismissed and negated. Then I saw it wasn't going to be a discussion but at best a fight. So I withdrew and deleted my inflammatory comment.

Good teachers don't ridicule and despise those who don't know. They teach them.
NaturallyPeculiar · 26-30, F
@Mamapolo2016 My issue with what you're saying is 1. I never intended for a fight but all the points you're making right now wasn't even anything similar to what you posted. In your post you never said anything like what you're now saying nor was anything like that implied. You basically posted a comment saying something along the lines of, "No one died. Your mom was just being embarrassing which parents have the right to do."
2. I never ridiculed or said I despise her or you or anyone. I also never said my mom is an icon for the evils of racism or any of the sort. I was just venting my frustrations the internet like a lot of people do.
3. You said good teachers teach, which is why I was pointing out to you that no one has to die for something to be considered toxic/harmful/wrong and saying something inappropriate/racist to your child's boyfriend/girlfriend/friends/whatever isn't a "parents right that they gain from signing the birth certificate" or "a parent just being embarrassing". However, now you're turning it around and making points that you never made in the first place which is a bit confusing.
3. Yes, you are making a lot of assumptions and I'm sure you know the saying about assumptions...
4. I'm just going to end it with this- I haven't been hateful or said anything hateful about my mother nor have I said anything hateful towards you. I haven't even been hostile or made assumptions about you. I just simply replied to what you said. I respect that you have a different opinion but that doesn't mean I'm not going to defend my own when someone is trying to invalidate how I feel about a situation I went through because "nobody died" and "parents have the right to embarrass their children".
@NaturallyPeculiar I wasn't referring to you - should've made that clear. And you're right. I read the atnosphere and did not want to toss burning oil on it.

Your attitude was not over-the-top at all. And I made the decision about racism and related issues when I was younger than you. It's okay.

I just didn't get to what I was going to say.

 
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