Absolutely. It has to be the woman's decision not the state's; its her health. Obviously nobody would want it abused as a form of contraception. What's different about Ireland and the rest of the progressive world? The power of the Catholic church and the large number of middle-aged male farmers who see women as breeders.
@milkymum1 Haven't followed it closely enough to know her name but there was that case recently of a woman (dentist?) and her husband who desperately wanted an abortion to save her life and the doctors refused because they'd be breaking the law. A few days later she was dead. Nobody wants to see babies or foetuses killed, but to me that is barbaric.
I know I'm late to this conversation, but I don't see why abortion should be illegal. I just don't think it should be a government funded thing.
If a woman doesn't want to carry a child and give birth, she should not be forced to do so. Highly unlikely that such a child is going to grow up to be a well adjusted, productive member of society. That said, there's no reason the state should be using tax payer money to assist such women, unless there are exigent circumstances.
There are too many women today who've just shunned all personal responsibility, and use state funded abortions as a most perverse form of fucking birth control. These women need mental health treatment, not easy unfettered, unaccountable access to abortions.
@alan20 hence my comment about exigent circumstances. But you’re wrong about women not using abortions as birth control. There’s a lot of sickos out there, and quite a few of them are women.
Please feel free to deflect from a deeply troubled situation and throw a completely unrelated topic into the mix. I stand with anyone who has the courage to face a hard choice, whether it is to take action to terminate, or to decide to sacrifice everything and have a child and struggle to raise it and hope it gets a better break, like all good parents. It should be the womans option. @Abrienda
Abortion should be a womans choice no matter what... the state should not get involved.. and as for what the churches thinks about abortion I really don't care.. I was never a religious person .. What right does the church have to dictate womens lives ?
@ChatterinSeuss It has to be up to the individual woman's conscience. And no one would compel medical staff to take part if they had conscientious objections. But we're talking about the life of a thinking, adult human being here. Never mind the "Eighth Amendment".
@Nyloncapes so freedom of choice, isnt that forcing your view on the baby who has no voice? It's not about us anymore when your pregnant, it's about the baby. And this is why it's so damn important to understand what sex is really about, and if you dont want to get pregnant, you better plan correctly. If it happens you get pregnant, well, you did the deed, you accept the outcome
For me, abortion should be a choice. There are already plenty of unwanted kids, in some countries people doesn't have enough to eat or drink, why bring more unwanted kids to this world? No one should be forced, neither to have a kid or to abort.
@milkymum1 Regardless of how the baby is conceived, it's still murder, though I'd be more open for extreme cased such as rape or endangerment of the mother.
@FrostBorne Except that if you believe this is human life why should the baby be punished for something the baby had no control over? And again medical advancements are such that endangerment of the mother is something so rare as to be almost nonexistent. In fact it isn't even statistically recordable.
The pro-abortionists use these arguments that belong to over a century before and we should stop giving them any validity...in fact hospitals and doctors have ALWAYS favored the life of the mother over a child that endangered it so again that is just one of their false justifications for murder.
Well it's obout abolishing the eight amendment which protects the life of the unborn , if the vote is to abolish the eight there will be certain conditions where you can have an abortion it won't be a case of just having an abortion because you don't want to have the child
Don't think the Catholic church should be preaching to us, they have covered up child rapes and abuse and torture for decades, from there priests, and just let them get away with it or moved them somewhere else
@Nyloncapes not decades try centuries... And it is coming to light now in this century.. In the old days you didn't have laws protecting children,, now its a whole new ball game
@OlderDude And no male should have a say in the choices a woman makes for herself, unless she asks his opinion. Some choices are difficult enough without that. But they are HER choices.
@milkymum1 I agree. my views also are such as when pregnancy is the result of incest or rape, when the life or health of the mother is judged by competent medical authority to be in serious jeopardy, or when the fetus is known by competent medical authority to have severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth
@milkymum1 yes I believe what you are saying.. in that case there is no debate... I say what if the woman does not want the baby period ..... she has the right to abort it and it is the law..
@ChatterinSeuss yes their are many reasons why w omen will go and its always a diffecualt one to make and yes she does unless the father is going to stand by her and help her
@ChatterinSeuss you are loony ... life is life ... words nor laws do not make any difference ... in England, they make laws for convenience ... if they thought it would keep the subjects happy, they would make a law against gravity
Words are not relevant ... once life has formed, it is entitled to be considered life ... it might not be able to read yet ... or vote yet ... but, it is life
And ALL life is entitled to sanctity ... the ease to which murder can occur ... should have no bearing ... it is still life.
Civil society ... is no longer civil, when it tolerates the extermination of the innocent and defenseless, for any reason.
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Killing the unborn is evil. Abortion on demand is wrong. So I vote no.