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ok so Ireland are having a vote on abortion so should abortion be allowed or not
alan20 · M
Absolutely. It has to be the woman's decision not the state's; its her health. Obviously nobody would want it abused as a form of contraception. What's different about Ireland and the rest of the progressive world? The power of the Catholic church and the large number of middle-aged male farmers who see women as breeders.
alan20 · M
@Abrienda I don't intend to honour that with an answer!
milkymum1 · 31-35, F
@alan20 well put to me its about how the baby was conceived and then the women choice
alan20 · M
@milkymum1 Haven't followed it closely enough to know her name but there was that case recently of a woman (dentist?) and her husband who desperately wanted an abortion to save her life and the doctors refused because they'd be breaking the law. A few days later she was dead. Nobody wants to see babies or foetuses killed, but to me that is barbaric.
TexChik · F
I don’t like it here in the US . They’ve killed 71,000,000 babies since Roe V Wade
milkymum1 · 31-35, F
@ChatterinSeuss ok thank you for that

so do you agree or not and why?
ChatterinSeuss · 61-69, M
@milkymum1 I believe it is totally up to the woman... why would any human carry a baby through 9 months if they don't want it.. it would be insane
milkymum1 · 31-35, F
@ChatterinSeuss yes to me its up to how the baby was conceived and if there any severe disabilities where there is no quality of life
SexyKelly · 36-40, F
I know I'm late to this conversation, but I don't see why abortion should be illegal. I just don't think it should be a government funded thing.

If a woman doesn't want to carry a child and give birth, she should not be forced to do so. Highly unlikely that such a child is going to grow up to be a well adjusted, productive member of society. That said, there's no reason the state should be using tax payer money to assist such women, unless there are exigent circumstances.

There are too many women today who've just shunned all personal responsibility, and use state funded abortions as a most perverse form of fucking birth control. These women need mental health treatment, not easy unfettered, unaccountable access to abortions.
SexyKelly · 36-40, F
@alan20 hence my comment about exigent circumstances. But you’re wrong about women not using abortions as birth control. There’s a lot of sickos out there, and quite a few of them are women.
alan20 · M
@SexyKelly I'd certainly agree that's sick. What to do about it is the problem.
SexyKelly · 36-40, F
@alan20 honest answer .... find them all and lock’em up. Politically correct answer, get them help.
SW-User
It's never an easy choice but sometimes it is the best. So, yes.
meemo70 · 51-55, M
@SW-User I agree
milkymum1 · 31-35, F
@SW-User to me its how the baby is concieved to what is best to do
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
A womans body. A womans business. Its probably the most difficult decision she will ever make and if anything it should be a crime to pressure her.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Please feel free to deflect from a deeply troubled situation and throw a completely unrelated topic into the mix. I stand with anyone who has the courage to face a hard choice, whether it is to take action to terminate, or to decide to sacrifice everything and have a child and struggle to raise it and hope it gets a better break, like all good parents. It should be the womans option. @Abrienda
milkymum1 · 31-35, F
@whowasthatmaskedman well put as its not always a straight forward thing as it depends how the baby was conceived.
milkymum1 · 31-35, F
@Abrienda for me its how the baby was conceived then the women choice
ChatterinSeuss · 61-69, M
Abortion should be a womans choice no matter what... the state should not get involved.. and as for what the churches thinks about abortion I really don't care.. I was never a religious person .. What right does the church have to dictate womens lives ?
TexChik · F
@ChatterinSeuss it’s not the woman getting killed .
alan20 · M
@ChatterinSeuss It has to be up to the individual woman's conscience. And no one would compel medical staff to take part if they had conscientious objections. But we're talking about the life of a thinking, adult human being here. Never mind the "Eighth Amendment".
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
Yes freedom of choice, no one has the right to force there views on other people, just because they think there right
milkymum1 · 31-35, F
@Nyloncapes @Nyloncapes yes so true to me its down to how the baby was concieved and then the women choice
OlderDude · 61-69, M
@Nyloncapes so freedom of choice, isnt that forcing your view on the baby who has no voice? It's not about us anymore when your pregnant, it's about the baby. And this is why it's so damn important to understand what sex is really about, and if you dont want to get pregnant, you better plan correctly. If it happens you get pregnant, well, you did the deed, you accept the outcome
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
What a stupid statement comparing abortion to gunmeñ going and shooting up a school
Laiapetarda · 18-21, F
For me, abortion should be a choice. There are already plenty of unwanted kids, in some countries people doesn't have enough to eat or drink, why bring more unwanted kids to this world? No one should be forced, neither to have a kid or to abort.
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
Totally agree the church has no right to dictate to a woman we are in 2018,and we keep telling other countries about how they dictate to there women
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@TexChik Yes something out of a cheap horror film only TRUE!
@alan20 you did not address what I said..

Should not murder be addressed.. and banned.. all murders.. ???
TexChik · F
@Abrienda very true and pathetic
SW-User
I hate abortion but I believe the government should not infringe on people's lives. So I'd vote yes after vomiting a few times.
milkymum1 · 31-35, F
@SW-User for me its down to how the baby was conceived not about anything else
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SW-User
I don’t know...You never know when someone really needs it
milkymum1 · 31-35, F
@SW-User its not about the poeple who want to adopt but for me how the baby was concived and then what action is taken
subhubby · 56-60, M
I vote No. I see it as a human life
milkymum1 · 31-35, F
@subhubby for me its very diffecault as it depnds on how the baby was conceived
bhatjc · 46-50, M
@milkymum1 I agree with that.
FrostBorne · 31-35, M
No, of course not. Abortion is a despicable act of murder. It's no different than a gunman entering a school and shooting up the place.
FrostBorne · 31-35, M
@math7 Regardless, it's still a life.
FrostBorne · 31-35, M
@milkymum1 Regardless of how the baby is conceived, it's still murder, though I'd be more open for extreme cased such as rape or endangerment of the mother.
Abrienda · 26-30, F
@FrostBorne Except that if you believe this is human life why should the baby be punished for something the baby had no control over? And again medical advancements are such that endangerment of the mother is something so rare as to be almost nonexistent. In fact it isn't even statistically recordable.

The pro-abortionists use these arguments that belong to over a century before and we should stop giving them any validity...in fact hospitals and doctors have ALWAYS favored the life of the mother over a child that endangered it so again that is just one of their false justifications for murder.
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Celt43 · 46-50, M
Well it's obout abolishing the eight amendment which protects the life of the unborn , if the vote is to abolish the eight there will be certain conditions where you can have an abortion it won't be a case of just having an abortion because you don't want to have the child
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
Don't think the Catholic church should be preaching to us, they have covered up child rapes and abuse and torture for decades, from there priests, and just let them get away with it or moved them somewhere else
ChatterinSeuss · 61-69, M
@Nyloncapes not decades try centuries... And it is coming to light now in this century.. In the old days you didn't have laws protecting children,, now its a whole new ball game
OlderDude · 61-69, M
No, and how its conceived is no fault of the babies. It should not have to pay the ultimate price for a messed up society.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@OlderDude And no male should have a say in the choices a woman makes for herself, unless she asks his opinion. Some choices are difficult enough without that. But they are HER choices.
bhatjc · 46-50, M
It's up to the person if they want to do that or not.
bhatjc · 46-50, M
@milkymum1 I agree. my views also are such as when pregnancy is the result of incest or rape, when the life or health of the mother is judged by competent medical authority to be in serious jeopardy, or when the fetus is known by competent medical authority to have severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth
milkymum1 · 31-35, F
@bhatjc yes to me if its rape incest has severe medical defects as no quality of life then that when the women should be given the option
bhatjc · 46-50, M
@milkymum1 Ikr. Also if the pregnancy endagers the health of the mother as well
Every life is priceless and unique

And each should have the sanctity to thrive

There can be no drawing of a line ... to separate those who get to live ... from those condemned ... when they are all innocent
ChatterinSeuss · 61-69, M
@milkymum1 yes I believe what you are saying.. in that case there is no debate... I say what if the woman does not want the baby period ..... she has the right to abort it and it is the law..
milkymum1 · 31-35, F
@ChatterinSeuss yes their are many reasons why w omen will go and its always a diffecualt one to make and yes she does unless the father is going to stand by her and help her
@ChatterinSeuss you are loony ... life is life ... words nor laws do not make any difference ... in England, they make laws for convenience ... if they thought it would keep the subjects happy, they would make a law against gravity

Words are not relevant ... once life has formed, it is entitled to be considered life ... it might not be able to read yet ... or vote yet ... but, it is life

And ALL life is entitled to sanctity ... the ease to which murder can occur ... should have no bearing ... it is still life.

Civil society ... is no longer civil, when it tolerates the extermination of the innocent and defenseless, for any reason.
SW-User
Killing the unborn is evil. Abortion on demand is wrong. So I vote no.
Myself11 · 61-69, M
When it involves incest or rape I say yes
Simpleminded777 · 36-40, M
Nope. If I was adopted I won’t be happy.
lingerielover · 70-79, M
Its a womans body ..its a womans choice
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Curiousme · 56-60, M
only under certain conditions.
milkymum1 · 31-35, F
@Curiousme which are?
Alfarrobas · 31-35, M

 
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