I Believe In The Right To Own A Gun

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For those who have the need to continue romanticizing (and fictionalizing) the past, let's talk about "your" rights. You, along with the rest of us, have a right to own a gun, but not to do with whatever we please whenever we please. And, that right under the full enforcement of the 2nd Amendment does not apply to every type of gun or extend to every type of weapon never imagined when the original right was bestowed to you, and the rest of us.

No one is trying to take away "your" precious guns, or the guns from anyone else. Despite the talking points that riled up many gun owners in the past, Obama was not trying to take away your guns, Hillary Clinton wasn't, nor anyone else. Military exercises in Texas during the Obama Administration that extremist gun owners sounded the alarm about as a ploy to declare martial law and suspend the 2nd Amendment NEVER took place. In the 21st century (or any century, for that matter) there is no reason, rationale, or right for a citizen to own a military grade gun designed exclusively to kill massive amounts of humans. You don't need such a weapon for safety, security, or hunting. In fact, if you are using such a gun or think you might need such a gun for hunting like the one used in the latest school shooting, you know nothing about the sport of hunting and should be banned from it - for life.

Instead of relying on talking points you get from the gun manufacturing trade association, also known as the NRA, start thinking for yourselves. Hopefully, when you were a kid you were taught how to do that. Go back and review that lesson. As a reminder, it's called, "thinking for yourself."

Saying we can't control everything as a way to justify, "let's not do anything" has sadly been an effective talking point... up to now. That is going to change. You will still have guns, but we will have stronger gun control regulations. It won't stop every instance of gun abuse, but it will stop some. It won't eliminate crazy people from our society, but it will deter some of them from getting guns in the first place and reduce the number who have access to military style weapons. And guess what, only a single success IS a success.

If you don't know better than reciting NRA talking points, you should stop and think (for yourself). Yes, it takes effort, but there is a reward for it. You will feel better about yourself as you continue to use your guns in ways the Constitution guarantees. And, it will act as a deterrent in case you or anyone of the rest of us thinks about using guns for ways the Constitution or its signers never intended for them to be used. And, for goodness sakes, acknowledge a solution does not have to "control everything" for it to be effective.

BizSuitStacy · M

Do you know what the difference is between these two firearms?

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One of them is a weapon of war. The other is an AR-15

You might also want to consider the fact that one of the most lethal military rifles is essentially a deer rifle...highly accurate bolt action rifles used by snipers.

Also consider that short barrel pump action shotguns were so effective in trench warfare during WWI, the Germans wanted them banned from combat.

Sanctimonious lecturing about repeating NRA talking points, and yet you regurgitate gun control talking points like a trained seal.

One of your first points is an anti-2A classic...no one could have imagined a gun like an AR-15 at the time of the 2A. Wrong! The earliest version of a magazine fed semi-automatic firearm was in the late 1600s. The Pickle Gun, considered to be the first machine gun was patented 80 years before the 2A was drafted. To think the founders could not have envision technological advancements in firearms is ludicrous. I mean, can you imagine a weapon that would render a modern day firearm obsolete? Of course you can. This is why the 2A gaurantees your right to keep and bear arms...not keep and bear muskets.

Then you spin up the classic...no one is trying to take away your guns. Not Obama, not Hillary. Wrong!
Both of them are on record supporting "Australian style" gun control. Hillary actually campaigned on it. Golly...what's "Australian Style" gun control. Read up on what happened after the Port Arthur massacre. Guns were banned and confiscated.

Then you key in the classic, no one needs a military style firearm. This is really the thing you wish into drive home.
And you ramble on with the classic nonsense about how you can't hunt with them, they're not good for self defense, and that they're designed to kill nuns and orphans with a single trigger pull. Wrong on all counts! Of course you can hunt with them. These arms are modular and caliber configured. Simply use the appropriate round for the game you wish to hunt. And why aren't they suitable for home defense? Many experts will argue the AR-15 is ideal as the .223 caliber bullet is less likely to over penetrate walls than many pistol and shotgun rounds. Of course, this requires ACTUALLY knowing something about firearms and ballistics. And let's face it...an AR-15 is just a semi-automatic rifle. So...answer this one question: what makes a military style semi-automatic more dangerous than any other semi-automatic. We'll all wait...

The best part is the authoritarian attitude you convey about furthering the cause to implement more gun control. You stop short of stating the desire to ban and confiscate arms such as the AR-15. I have two words for you.

Molon labe.

katielass · F

Obviously you know less about guns than you assert. Some hand guns operate exactly the same as the "assault" weapon the shooter used to slaughter those 17 people. It's only called an assault weapon because it looks serious but it operates exactly the same as many hand guns no one is posturing about. Learn about the issue before you start telling everyone else what you want them to have or to do. And realize that you don't get to make the laws any more than anyone else.

MarkPaul · 26-30, M

Your love of "sides" seems equal to your love of guns which, no doubt coincides with your love of the savior you see in donald trump (before he was against sensible gun control, I mean... you know when he professed to be a Democrat - and not that long ago, so spare me the Ronald Reagan Democrat-to-Republican comparison).

You have yet to make a point, let alone "your" point. "Your side" which clearly (now) turns out to be the NRA has come up - and is coming up now through your notorious spokespeople like Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, and other self-serving robots, that the solution is to arm schools as though they are active military zones. With all due respect... are you nuts? We do not need weapons to achieve a safe environment for learning. In case you grew up in Syria or Afghanistan, in American society we are able to and should take advantage of the civilized society we have available to us. There is nothing noble about the militaristic view of the world you hold up. So, yes... that nonsensical idea is rejected.

The idea that you are entitled to your little hobby without regard to the rest of society, with no restrictions, controls, or limits raises the idea of a bunch of entitled cry-babies to a whole new and disturbing level.

How about you save your fake-pride for "your side" for your reality TV show watching and get off your fat ass and help address the problem with a real solution. And, the last time Americans were surveyed, the popularity of the Affordable Care Act with all of its flaws was exceptionally higher than the incompetent performance of the people who are now (thankfully) on the way out of power (including trump and his swamp-infested, corrupt gang of idiots).

Of course it is up to you, but you really should try thinking for yourself instead of reciting talking points that even Sarah Huckabee Sanders can't defend even with her enthusiasm for lying.