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Do you believe in Karma ? Why ? Why not ?

cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
Karma is what naturally happens as a result when we do something. If we seek revenge for someone’s bad actions then karma will be delayed and it’s usually a lot better than any revenge we could do and it doesn’t get our hands dirty either.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Iwillwait he’s dead now, seemed to be possessed by the devil. He drank heavily most of his adult life and then stopped and acted like people should kiss his butt for that when he came back around but his selfish behaviors didn’t stop. He was diagnosed as a bipolar with a personality disorder, refused to take his meds
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@cherokeepatti Yeah. I just figured you might take his last days, the conditions under which he lived and his death as payback enough.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@SW-User he murdered my mother, so I don’t think so
Karma sounds simple. But in reality, one cause rarely leads to just a single effect. Instead, each cause and each effect are intertwined with many others, causing a long chain of complicated interactions that aren't predictable. So it's naïve to expect that you can do something good and receive the result you hope for, or that when you do something bad you'll only experience a consequence that you can predict. No matter how hard you may try to control the process of cause and effect, your attempts are in vain in this complicated world where all people are connected in ways that can easily result in unpredictable outcomes.

Since God is perfect, His standards reflect perfection, which is impossible for fallen human beings to achieve. Karma is the futile effort of trying to earn enough good karma to achieve salvation with God. But good works never work when it comes to salvation. One cannot earn their way to heaven. You can't free yourself from sin, no matter how hard you may try to do so. Jesus said we owe a debt we can't pay. But He did, on the cross for us.

Recognize how other people's karma affects your own.
Karma is contagious.You receive some of the effects caused by other people's choices, even when you don't want that to happen. Your own choices affect other people in either good or bad ways, whether or not you intend for that to happen. What happens in other people's lives crashes over into yours, and vice versa. So you can't truly be the master of your own destiny with karma.

Since karma loads you up with responsibility for everything you cause, it saddles you with a huge debt you can't pay because all people cause more trouble than they can make up for in this fallen world.

We must turn to the only one who's ever lived with perfect karma.

Jesus is the only One who has ever lived a perfect human life. Only Jesus has the power to take your imperfect karma and forgive the debt you owe because of it.

Jesus offers to forgive your karma debt by absorbing it into Himself through His sacrificial death on the cross. Jesus paid for your sins and makes your salvation possible if you accept His forgiveness.
@usher I'm very familiar with that, yes. It matters not only what we believe, but why. The bible was inspired by the Holy Spirit. The Greek word being "theopneustos", meaning "God-breathed", inspired by God, due to the inspiration of God. Words not entrusted to just any men, but to [b]holy men of old[/b], to write down under the direction and inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Thank God, no one has to know how to read Greek, Hebrew, or any other language, in order to know how to be saved. Bible scholars have translated those languages, for us.

Under the direction of men, yes, you're going to find spelling errors, translation errors, what have you, as man is flawed by sin, however, Jesus is without sin, perfect, and flawless. Man has tried to destroy His Word, burn it, deny it, mock it, ridicule it, yet it has survived all the way down through the ages, which in itself is a miracle, because while some papers may have been destroyed, God and His Word shall never pass away. So while we could dispute these things until we're blue in the face, let us not miss the main focus, which is how to get to heaven, because if we miss that important truth, we've missed everything. "For what shall it profit a man, if he gains the whole world, yet loses his own soul?" Mark 8:36

The bible is as up to date as tomorrow's newspaper. No other book of any kind, can tell our future with precise 100% accuracy, like the bible does. It was not coincidental.
usher · 41-45, F
@LadyGrace I admire your conviction and resolve. I do agree its a good book, but alas some of the stories I 'm still struggling to believe and they don't affect me directly. I can live easily with just the new testament a an inspiration to life.
@usher Some of the stories are given simply, so we can better understand them. For examples of what to do when faced with certain circumstances in life, but the whole bible can be applied to our life and was meant as God's Roadmap For Life. We are no longer under the Old Testament laws or bound by them. I, too, enjoy the New Testament. The Old is helpful in bible study and reference, but I'm like you...I am more into the New Testament, which is God's New Covenant with His people. The O.T. is more history. The New is certainly the best inspiration.
No I don't. Nowhere in scripture does God teach reincarnation or karma. It says we reap what we sow. And there is nothing divine in people until they experience the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, which comes after a person has accepted Jesus as their Savior.
usher · 41-45, F
@LadyGrace I fail to see heaven as a physical place but I do believe in its existence. I read the bible as metaphorical and representations of literal meanings. For me it's a state of existence and more spiritual than physical. I do rever the bible but I interpret it differently than others
@usher Well, yes, it IS more spiritual, but it is just as real a place as earth, where saved spirits go, when the body dies. Until resurrection day. And no one has to miss going there.
@usher The Bible is its own best interpreter. Most of the expressions in Scripture that seem challenging or mysterious have appeared in Scripture elsewhere. We therefore look up and cross reference these instances, and the meaning becomes clear. It is the Holy Spirit that interprets the Word of God for us, teaching us. Without which, it is misinterpreted.

1 John 2:27 - "But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, so you don’t need anyone to teach you what is true. For the Spirit teaches you everything you need to know, and what he teaches is true— it is not a lie. So just as he has taught you, remain in fellowship with Christ."
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I believe in Karma.
I believe there are consequences of our actions, not in a punishment cycle but the domino effect we set when we act on something.
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@usher There are many beliefs about it. That is not one I have ever heard though.
usher · 41-45, F
@SW-User Thats the purpose of reincarnation is that the new reborn is a better person
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@usher The purpose of reincarnation is to get in touch with the divinity inside you by shedding the density of the ego and all the dense low frequency emotions that come along with it. So yes, to be a better person. But you cannot be a better person without conquering your shadow. And sometimes that comes in the form of 'paying karmic dues'.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Yes because we reap what we sow.
@MrBrownstone this is my belief. 👆
It's been great talking with you. But I have to go now and get some work done. 😂
usher · 41-45, F
@LadyGrace ok, thanks for chat
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I don't believe in it as a supernatural force, but I believe in the general idea that we reap what we sow and what goes around comes around. In other words: we get out of the world what we put it into it and we can't escape consequences for long.
HairbrushDiva · 31-35, F
What's not to believe?
HairbrushDiva · 31-35, F
@usher Apparently he died from a cerebral haemorrhage. Maybe that was his karma.
usher · 41-45, F
@HairbrushDiva Seems like he got off lightly for what he done.
HairbrushDiva · 31-35, F
@usher Maybe.
Midnightoker1 · 61-69, M
“I want revenge, but I don't want to screw up my karma"
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Midnightoker1 karma doesn’t belong to us personality, it’s what happens when someone does good or bad.
Confined · 56-60, M
@Midnightoker1 God said, do not use evil to fight evil. In the end Revenge is mine.
SweetMae · 70-79, F
I believe that we harvest what we reap.
GuyWithOpinions · 31-35, M
Yes. Because when im good to people they become good to me. Iv expanded that to my environment itself. Be good to everything and it seems to reflect back.
usher · 41-45, F
@GuyWithOpinions That might not be Karma, just people being good ?
GuyWithOpinions · 31-35, M
@usher for every action there is a reaction. I choose to react with positivity and the universe hasnt let me down.
summersong · F
I believe that actions have consequences and sometimes those come about later. Not sure I believe that it’s carried from lifetime to lifetime
usher · 41-45, F
@summersong so many bad people got away with it tho
Confined · 56-60, M
I do believe in karma. My x left me. Karma kicked her in the ass hard. She may be paying for sins in former life as well.
I have seen others get affected by karma as well.
Iwillwait · M
NO.
I believe in Jehovah.
Iwillwait · M
@cherokeepatti That's not "Karma," in the terms of what eastern philosophy is. What you're referring to is "The Judgement," and yes, this is unavoidable.
@usher No. You can't have it both ways.
Iwillwait · M
@usher No.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
Karma also depends upon how you view something. The word actually means "Action"..if I recall correctly.
usher · 41-45, F
@Entwistle It seems to have a lot of deeper meaning for people in the 'west'
Entwistle · 56-60, M
@usher Yeah,maybe so.
Yes I've seen in action once to someone else. And I laughed!
@usher No, the party we're discussing here is my ex-wife, she left me for someone else who dumped her 2 months later.
usher · 41-45, F
@DropTopDig Karma can backfire..lol
@usher I'll take my chances.
Eclipsed · M
Yes but its not exactly as humans imagine it to be.. but it is a force of nature that sometimes reveals itself in a person's own lifetime.
deadgerbil · 22-25, F
To an extent. I wish it was more forceful in getting bad people
usher · 41-45, F
@deadgerbil me too
I do but it is not necessarily called karma...
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Confined · 56-60, M
@SW-User Careful young Jedi.
No, i have seen too many good, kind, caring people who give selflessly have one bad thing after another happen to them and conversely i have seen people who are greedy, hateful and arrogant have good things happen to them. It simply doesn't add up.
@istillhaveanameitsrick Yes, that happens too but eventually everything come home... and payback is terrible.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
If you don't believe in karma then try dropping a car battery on to your foot. What's the result? That's karma in action.
It's not a spiritual force that dishes out justice. It's just action.
usher · 41-45, F
@Entwistle I thik karma is about good and bad and how it pay back is the action rather than doing harm to one self.
Entwistle · 56-60, M
@usher Fair enough.
Not sure.

At times, there seems to exist a natural order of things, honoring our contributions here
on earth. Balancing benevolence and misdeed.

 
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